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Their version of Sea Training shut down the transformer cooling system, against the advice of the RN officer assisting. The idea was to test the crews reaction to the backup system taking over. The problem was that there was no backup system.....

Yes. No.

Not really. The issues with the boats go far beyond neglect while they were along the wall.

Self-caused electrical problems. For once that's not he fault of the UK.

How much extra does your method cost to the consumer?

I think he's talking about this one http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php Looks like over 3000 of them are. It's part of the methodology behind the NASA 97% figure. That number is extremely dodgy.

Is DMP allowed to withdraw the charge, or does it take on a life of its own?

I'm pretty sure it's the CO's decision to move forward with the CM, not DMP.

She might also genuinely believe that she's being seen off, and called the reporters in over that. She might actually have been adrift for two hours without a good reason, but what's the point in running her now when she's being released in a month?

Keeping the current aircraft working is still an option. Maybe not the best option but it's on the list.

The F-35 won't be ready in a year either. My point is that the F-35 may not be a valid solution for a 30 year planned lifecycle.

True, but that technology will be available for new aircraft and weapons. Buying the F-35 now may turn out to be equivalent to a biplane program in 1938.

I didn't think they had weapons ability until Block 3 software was out? DARPA just got the X-51 to Mach 5+. The F-35 best before date may not be as far out as previously thought.

Or predictions were made that couldn't be kept. It isn't realistic to expect to run the only four submarines of their type at once when we could only run one O-boat out of three and we had a full global supply chain to draw on.

Plus ca change, plus la memechose. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/04/30/ns-hmcs-windsor-generator.html

I think we could dedicate our entire V-22 and KC-130J force to something like this. :facepalm:

That's only $1.3 billion each, in current dollars. That's not very much even if we do full copies of foreign designs with no system integration required.

You do realize that pits things like dropping in more Mk 41 modules and 155 mm guns out of the question, right?

Production cost won't include integration development effort. Navy shooter is right. As an example, it cost over $1 billion to integrate a new command system into the Collins submarines, and that's with very few "new" interfaces. Integrating all those different pieces of equipment is very...

If you look at how they calculated the exact amount they think the project will need, they multiplied the magnitude of the different events that could cause cost over-runs by their probability. That lead to the final figure, which is about $800 million short, and they said that if they need any...