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That helps.  Thanks.  Just wondered if the loss of the 8th dismount played havock with the assault group/fire team doctrine. 

As I said I know the basic organization.  How do the dismounts structure themselves?  The typical 8-member rifle section is divided into two 4-member groups.  But with only 7 dismounts I'm just curious how they group.  One group of 3 and one of 4, two of 3 plus the section commander independent...

How is the basic rifle section (mechanized in the LAV-III) structured and can it be improved upon?  If so how?  I know the organization of the section, but how is it structured in battle?  More specifically the dismounted element.  How does the 7-member dismounted element fight?  Does it operate...

I realize there is a difference.  I'm saying that the role of CSOR is to support the JTF2 similar to the Special Forces Support Group of the UK, which is similar (but not exactly the same) as 4 RAR and the US Army Rangers.  I was more suggesting convert the CSOR and jump companies into something...

I think both the OBG and ABG could work.  But the most important thing is to fully man whatever units we have to stop this force generation mess where one rifle company comes from one battalion or brigade and another company from a different battlion or brigade and an armoured squadron with a...

I wasn't suggesting smaller squadrons.  I was just stating the Australian organization and how they grouped all their operational tanks  into one unit.  I would also suggest staying with 19 or maybe 18 tank squadrons.  As you stated that would allow the squadron to split in half when required. ...

Great discussion.  I see a lot of comments about smaller but fully manned brigade groups.  Good idea.  It would be nice to some day see a fourth brigade stood up.  Dreaming I know.  On the topic of the tanks; wouldn't a squadron per brigade group be a good compromise?  It is pretty unlikely...

Sounds great.  I just thought that it was a ABG experiment.  I wasn't sure how that would be different from the present.  I like the idea of an OBG.  So are the supporting artillery battery and armoured squadron actually being moved to Gagetown?  I assume the engineer squadron is already in...

The RCD website calls the 2 RCR BG an "Optimized Battle Group".  However, the DND paper posted earlier in this site says the Army will move towards "Affiliated Battle Groups".  What's with the contradition in terms?  Is it just a word play or have plans changed at all?

Is there any update on how the 2 RCR ABG experiment is going?  I haven't been able to find anything online other than a reference on the RCD website to its squadron that is forming part of the BG.

Enhanced Company Operations - A logical progression to capability development by Col. Vincent J. Goulding, Jr. From 2004 through 2006 the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory (MCWL) focused its experimentation on the evolving concept of distributed operations (DO), itself focused on better...

I was reading a book on Canadian operations in Afghanistan and during the one particular operations being discussed the rifle companies were dispursed approximately 75 km away from each other or from the battle group headquarters.  As indicated in above posts the "unit of employment" has become...

Agreed, nine permanently organized combined arms battle groups would not work with the present structure.  It would required full manning.

I'm curious why so many think that permanent combined arms battle group are not a good idea for the independent sub-units?  There are plenty of examples of this that have worked.  Through the Cold War German panzer battalions had one panzer grenadier company and visa versa.  This was a permanent...

I think that if done, which I think it should be, the OBG should be organized more as a mini-brigade group rather than a battalion+.  In this sense the battle group commander would have to be trained extensively in combined arms operations.  The battle group headquarters should also be...

Could the V-22 also fill the role of the CH-149, permitting them to be sold off or used as tactical helicopters in addition to the future CH-147 Chinook?

Any predictions or hopes for the next CDS?  My vote would be for LGen. Leslie.  I think he would be the closest thing to a Hillier and would continue in his foot steps.  Then ship Gen. Hillier over to the RCMP.  We'll take him as Commissioner!

I think he would make a good CDS but I do agree he's been out of the game too long.  It might take him a little while to get back in the groove.  On a related note, I've heard a few members in the RCMP suggest Gen. Hillier for our next Commissioner of the RCMP.  I totally agree.  I think he...

I think all reserve brigade groups should be reorganized as battle groups.  They are closer to battle group size anyway.  Therefore, each sub-unit could maintain their regimental history and traditions.  This would not only allow most reserve regiments to be maintained as well as bringing a few...

I guess I was thinking of the CSOR as more like the Canadian Airborne Regiment where personnel flowed both ways.  In my proposal all of the regular, so to speak, battalions would be mechanized so obviously the CSOR would be organized different.  The proposal was a rotational cycle of 8 battle...