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This should be in army.ca's catologe of quotations. "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths." - to inmates complaining of the heat in 'tent city' I liked the pink underware bit too.

I would agree that also Flip and with your early comment that once taken out of society, what's the point of going further. Just lock them up and 'have a nice day'. They are already out of the playground.  The justice system is a human system and therefore suject to error.  There is therefore a...

That's a really good clear argument zipperhead.  I'm surpised more people don't agree with you. Your arguments are so persuasive, and loud. And your barely veiled personal attacks really win me over. I happen to know a Doctor very well that counsils inmates in Kingston. She has quite a...

              I'm not trying to exclude myself from my own critsism here; if I could quickly and easily define justice (This 'rightness' the Mr. Brimley mentions) and then using that definition of the 'just', lay out exactly how execution is damaging to society and how not executing a person...

True, but it does not effectively deter others. I think cost is a legitimate argument, but it is of lower importance. You and Greymatters I think are correct in pointing this out. At issue are far more weighty moral arguments That is not a weighty moral argument. Edited for grammer.

Greymatters,       Cost is not the only argument, but it is one of them.  Inmates are typically only executed after a large number of years, in a sense the system pays for 'both' methods if capital punishment is to be used. Of course this delay time I would imagine would differ between...

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108

"Death Penalty has Cost New Jersey Taxpayers $253 Million" Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life...

From my limited understanding of how it works in the U.S. is that if a person is to be executed they must go through an additional process that is very time consuming and expensive.    Thanks zipperhead, I like prizes.

I don't agree with the death penalty at all. Captial trials are expensive and I'm not buying the 'we hardly ever make mistakes' hubris. But were it to come back, I'd throw in with the 'wheel of death' as long as it has 'death by science' on it.

I think one of the options should have been "In the name of Science" though I suppose you could slip that in with "Something more painful". 

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The Commonwealth Fund 2003 International Health Policy Survey -  its a bit old, but interesting to look through. http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=239252 There were some surprises for me in it, both good and bad.

I'll take Ron Paul's blimp over Huckabee's washed up Texas Ranger  ;D

+ Many. Awesome, thanks.

More like one country to the west, not to the east.  :P         If anyone's really interested in arms control and proliferation and the such, there is an excellent blog www.armscontrolwonk.com written by a guy from Harvard some other colleagues.

Wow. I remember doing autos, 2,000 fpm was pretty typical. That's one fast decent for one big bird.

            Yeah, that's why popped that one up there. While it would be interesting to have a discussion on Military aide to civil power, all the nuances, intricacies and the such. This guy seems to be Level 4 Oxygen waster.

"First of all, members of council say almost anything from time to time...I don't agree with this idea,"                      -Mayor David Miller on Mammoliti's proposal to create a red light district in Toronto I do not know him, but I get the sense that this is one of 'those' Toronto city...

      It is interesting that a treaty can still be binding on Canada yet not on Canadians per se, I didn't know that.  I guess we're seeing this with the Kyoto treaty now.  I guess I was right and wrong; Parliament is needed for the meaningful implementation of a treaty, but has zero power over...