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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I will almost guarantee that it will become a drone launching version of the Mk41, where you can make various other drones or devices launch from there with an insert or conversion package.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I have the answer. Its LEED launchers. Long Endurance Electronic Decoy. So for you @Lumber you'll have to make due with the next gen Nulka instead of the OG version. Nulka Combat Use Shows Warships Need Longer-Lasting Electronic Warfare-Enabled Decoys Because they are soft launched...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    More reasons I dont' think its JASM. The RAM was obviously moved away from the midships breezeway because that's where the intakes are for the main stack, so you don't want missile exhaust chemicals pulled into there. Also that long railing on the side of the stack is for Replenishment at Sea...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    If it is JAGM then we can probably make an assumption that this is the first modification in recognition of naval drone warfare. Hellfire family can be used against drones both airborne and waterborne. And it's much cheaper than shooting a RAM, ESSM at a target. But the launchers are not...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    On the UK version that's where they squeeze in CAMM. Which are very short and light missiles. No idea either. That placement counterbalances the RAM I think. I expect they will keep moving around.
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    Replacing the Subs

    Seaspan is moving in that direction in some areas. They have challenges keeping skilled workers because of their location. But yah, probably not as all in as Korea is.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    You underestimate my popularity.... lmao!
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    That was probably started by me. I made a supposition that when CAMM was removed it would be replaced with two RAM where the other T26 CIWS were located. That was before the new drawings were released. I wrote it with probably more authoritative knowledge than I had at the time. Apologies.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Sure, then we'll get a ship 2042 instead of 2032. Too far down the rabbit hole now. Already have the LBT Facility being built, the trade changes are being implemented and the first sets of radars and equipment purchased.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    The RCN knows that the frigate to destroyer transition will be difficult. It's timing could barely be worse. It also comes at a time where we are facing large personnel challenges, both retention and training ones. This is a wicked problem, and frankly similar ones are being felt by most 1st...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    L band is on German, Dutch and Danish AAW frigates. UK uses L band on their carriers. L band is common enough for long range air volume search. NATO doctrine recommends one radar for volume search and one for tracking, and ships that like to do very long range air search use L band. I don't...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Its a bigger ship, more beam and length. We've been over this. There were some sacrifices for those extra missile (among them speed, maneuverability, power, seakeeping). The large diamond at the bottom of the pattern is an L-Band addition to the normal CEAFAR S-band (diamonds across the top)...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    CEAFAR/CEAMOUNT are very light relative to their size. That's all the good things I've ever heard about them from Australians.
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    Replacing the Subs

    I think we're playing with words a bit on the operational ratios. You need 4 boats to have one constantly at sea doing mission work. You need 3 boats to have one available (but not necessarily at sea, perhaps alongside as ready duty). RCN wants (ideally) three boats always at sea. One for...
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    Replacing the Subs

    When you have a launcher you can do lots of things with it. Surviellance drones, UUV's (though probably those are better through the torp tubes), decoys whatever works.
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    Replacing the Subs

    Never present a throwaway COA. Ever. That's bad planning (as I found out at a very inoportune moment in my career, lesson learned... lol). Though sometimes your third COA looks very similar to one of the other two. No, Canada isn't looking for ballistic missiles, but we are looking for land...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Based on the DIS then sure, jobs. Does that translate into seats we'll have to see. Why are we all talking like this is a bad thing? Because we were burned before? It's different than finding a Canadian supplier to do something new on someones kit. This is Canadian suppliers to reproduce and...
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    Replacing the Subs

    For $60 billion you're damn right Cabinet decides the winner. This is entirely what we elected these people for, to make the big decisions for good or ill. And with a budget line that big, I would expect nothing less than a cabinet decision. As far as RCN needs. Both submarines already meet...
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    Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

    Yah, they increased the SIP. Overall the total number of signalers over last year is higher, but because of the SIP increase the percentage is lower. Its really hard to recruit for signals if it isn't SIG TECH, IS TECH or LINE TECH.
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    BAE Mk 45 mod 4 likely. As far as Lionfish replacement goes there are plenty of options. Unfortunate as I'm a big Vulcano fanboy.
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