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If you were going the adapt to purpose route with a baseline ice hardened/strengthened hull and you wanted space for elevators/storage/whatever, you could get all that essentially in an UMIAK type arctic freighter. The weakness here is in redundancy, with one propulsion plant, shaft and prop...

That’s such an unfortunate oversight in the execution of the vessel. As far as I know, and I certainly stand to be corrected, the propulsion, hotel systems and accommodations as well as the ability to transfer and store provisions (without a native help, notwithstanding) are all successfully...

Not being a naval engineer, I’m wondering how difficult it is to install baffles in the tanks now or at a refit in the near future? Is it a huge endeavour that makes it not worth it or is it a feasiblility?

While that’s impressive, I’d be more entertained by someone waterskiing in front of a Halifax class.

I guess in that hypothetical TG I was referring to, you’d have the option to go with whatever seemed appropriate in any given scenario. No doubt it’ll be a leap forward to have that kind of layering in place.

I’m still wondering if the 57 on a Halifax with its higher rate of fire is more or less effective than a 127 against these types of attacks. I mentioned before that once a RCD leads a TG, it’ll be party composed of a CPF or two. How will these two systems complement each other in these scenarios?

It gets me thinking about about how two platforms working together might deal with these kind of airborne threats. The first task force that an RCD might lead would likely have 2 HALIFAX class as well. How effective is the high fire rate 57 and the phalanx at dealing with drones? Could be that...

With the proliferation of airborne threats these days, I’d like to have 2 of the 21 cell units, fed by the ship’s sensors.

Ku-dos to Murray for pointing this out…

Who wore it better…?

I imagine it would be determined by whether the powers that be have a bias towards arctic operations vs a pacific pivot.

As the resident CCG expert, could some of these sorts of investigations be carried out by Coast Guard Vessels under their updated mission set?

I believe you’re referring to ST LAURENT, probably. I’m also wondering what’s going on with TERRY FOX, it seems like she’s been at Ontario Shipyards for over a year now.

We call it Gatinese in Ottawa…

Start off small. Mount a .50 in the box and maybe moonlight as Mayan Riviera Highway Patrol, should you need some extra spending money

It’s understandable why they went the way they did and of course the entire conversation is moot, because that ship has sailed…or hasn’t in certain circumstances. Those points are all absolutely valid, but unfortunately we’re still in the fix we’re in now with the various fleets. If we really...

Around the time all this was starting, I thought it would’ve made more sense to have 3 large yards to deal with the volume of vessels needed. Because of Canada’s geography, I’ve heard it said that we really have 2 Navies (east/west). I know hindsight is 20/20, but for the past few years, I’ve...

Not sure why that post by @NavyShooter got tangled in with my response. Apologies for any confusion.

If you get a chance to peruse through the CGAI podcast, Dave Perry has spoken with the commanders of both the CA and RCAF. IMHO, they both came off as pragmatic and capable with good abilities to articulate their views. Topshee is a high bar to meet when it comes to talking the talk in a smart...

Oh, I get it and I’m a fan of Topshee’s vision, in the whole. I’d very much like to see this done ASAP and I think we’re going to need to lean heavily on some outside help to make it happen. Possibly the S Koreans can help with the ship design and maybe some efficient building techniques learned...