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actually I avoided that site exactly for this reason, I only offer the information I read take it as you wish just trying to prove my point.

I found an article stating that the F-35 has alwas been considered for a UCAV production as well as the X-45 here is the adress WWW Navlog.org/unmanned_f35.html

According to the Canada fist defence policy the government plans to acquire 10-15 MPA if seen a budget of $2.5 billion but that seems kind of low to me.

maybe we can have things both ways, I took some advice from a previous posts, did some digging and got information from the Public Relations and Information office of the Swedish Airforce RE: the JAS-39c fully loaded it can take off from rough airstrips, airfields of parts there of and highways...

I'v managed to make some major blunders I's still trying to figure out what the airforce is going to need, I had ideas but it seems that I was wrong.  So tell me what is needed.

good point doy you think that there are any that could fit the bill?

Thanks glad to hear it

I know that the f-35 A,B,C will have a piolt but I was reading that it may also be built as a unmanned combat areial vehicle can anbody confirm this or was it just mor wiki bs.

I read that the f-35 is being built as a unmanned combat areal vehicle??  something like the french neuron?

I'm new to the Idea of uav's in the Arctic but I'm not sure about something,  If we patrol the Arctic with UAV's that are unarmed armed would international law still recognize our ability to defend it or remove our rights there?  or am I way out there.

maybe going green is what is needed for any cas to work.  Why would the airforce mind giving up somthin that they don't want anyway ........

I'm all for 30-40 AH-1Z rather thanAH-64's, we just have to make sure that they will be able to fight where they are needed without having to mission adapt everything.

lets face reality,how long did it take to replace the seaking? the army was going to get the MGS instead of the leo 2's they needed we need to plan now expecting a 15-20 year wait for the kit we should have had 5 years ago. The AT-6C was an idea to get some capability and develop it.

Not implying that it can the Herc is hard to beat, what I'm thinking is what is the c-130 doing that is better done by other airframes.

Not expecting them to I used a bad example.  DND is buying some very expensive helicoplers and no escort for the helicopters or the troops they carry.

An attack helicopter would be best I agree and we should have that capability but to give some capability a turboprop can be fielded faster, this is dependent on operational requirements, if we have 10-15 years the helicopter is the way to go. However if we only have 2 years then the turboprop...

The JSF is listed as $88 million (US) but that is for a LRIP of 6 aircraft.having some B model JSF would be useful but I don't know about servicing requirements.  I think there are better options for Canada, maybe a 2 aircraft type fighter fleet might be a better approach. my choices would be a...

why not kill two birds with one stone, replace the remainding 'H' hercs and Buffalo's with the c-27J? not entirely a one for one exchange but it's better than nothing.  Don't forget 5 of those 'H' models are tankers that will have to be replaced as well.

That is what I've been trying to say thanks for the input Colin P.

then I'm guessing that we don't need that capability now. Thanks for the conversation