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Me too, but I had AF AEC Tng confirm those timings specifically, as it is not my bailiwick. The differences might be in how people are accounting for wait times between crses. Either way it is 15 weeks of tng :) Along this same line... I could have made the table much more complicated in trying...

Sorry about the colours. See attached document. Current AEC Recruitment and Training Process Recruitment: • Selection test is done at the CFRC (AEC requires overall CFAT score at or above the 60th percentile; this compares to 38th percentile for GSO/PLT) • Meet other criteria (medical...

Once you are in the CF then failure of one crse will not put you back on the street. I know of a few folks that failed PLT, NAV then AEC yet still ended up being fine officers in other disciplines. What options are actually open to you if you were to fail would be dependent on previous selection...

About 60% of AECs have an ATC only background and few of them care about AWACS at all. Amongst the AWC folks though AWACS, and GK in particular, is the ultimate.

If things go the way they are heading with selection testing this is how it will play out... You enter the CFRC. You make some career choices. If any of them happen to be Air Ops (PLT, NAV, AEC) then you will be sent for selection testing. Once tested you will be apprised of the results and...

Sigh, now we have Internet foot stomping  ::) When do I get to see the chest thumping? As a strong believer in the Flight Safety System I am not interested in the blame game. However, as with the FS system, any and all incidents should be examined to find usable lessons learned. Heck even a...

You are taking my comment out of context. That said, I probably should have focused on the "aptitudes" aspect wherein the aptitudes to make for safer and more effective TACP/FACs is inherently resident within certain AF occupations. I never said the AF should be the end game wrt FAC/TACP. In...

Call it what you want. His observation that "Air force in the FAC teams doing strikes has been tried before and found to be a degradation in capability" is completely contradictory to current thinking, doctrine and experience in this area. Certainly whatever experiences that led to his view has...

... and the A-10 incident being the shining example of how things were being done? The tremendous amount of study that went into that incident all led to one conclusion FAC/TACP is more effective and safer in the hands of AF pers who have the fast air/fast thinking/spatial reasoning capabilities...

Did the RC make the AEC interactive recruitment DVD available? (Not just the AEC video but the entire interative DVD) It is pretty informative as it was done by CFSACO with the help of the CF Mulitmedia Services. Currently, stream preferences are solicited by AF AEC Training while the candidate...

What does discipline assignment have to do with bottlenecks? Production capacity has gone from 48 AECs per year to 90 in the last year. I'd say the bottleneck is fixed. However, you are right, the current way people are assigned to a discipline is not the best and that is being fixed as well. If...

"airborne jumbo jet equipped with a radar sensor" ::) :D

There is considerable effort to re-introduce "air" expertise in the FAC/TACP role. As such you will see more AECs in direct TACP roles and AC Ops as FAC. Numbers are limited right now but expanding significantly over the next two years. As a percentage or in absolute terms the end numbers are...

It was silly considering the bottleneck it created in production. That has been fixed. Other than what is offered in D/L all AEC training at CFSACO is now discipline specific.

Folks with DWAN access looking for more global information on Occupation/Trade status would find the report on this page useful: http://hr.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/dgmp/dpgr/engraph/reports/description_e.asp?sec=2&report=parra As the name of the report implies it details PML, TES, attrition and...

That point was already conceded. Regardless, the genesis of my quip was that of those 200+ ANAVs flying only a small percentage are actually "navigating". Time for a name change. The point Gazoo has made is that a majority of AECs are in operational positions unlike their ANAV brethren. That...

Puzzled? That’s why we have AECs… to tell pilots what to do when they get puzzled. That aside, your puzzlement is either a clear reflection of your desire to be witty over constructive or tied to the significant delta between the intellectual selection criteria between AECs and PLTs. The fact of...

Cdn Aviator... if it bothers you that AECs are considered Aircrew that is your problem. If you were chaffing at the use of the adverb "many" then I acquiesce and change it to "some", as the physical demands are certainly not the same... except when we spin in our chairs to see who can get the...

I suspect there are more AECs flying right now than ANAVs; certainly on a percentage of PML anyway. Regardless, AECs are treated as aircrew due to the nature of control duties having many of the same physiological demands as flying. This extends itself beyond just the medicals into areas such as...