I get it. Iriving has put a lot of resources into developing a training pipeline with the local colleges and trade schools. But a bigger RCN will need more trades period.
There were others besides those ones.
As far as 1 and 4A being abandoned, it's not on all ships, and not for all departments. Techs like straight 12s if they can get them or 7 and 5s. You can actually fix a problem instead of turning it over to the next watch.
Something we are not considering in this conversation is not that Canada provides attractive finished military effectors. We're far more specialized in systems that go into something else (like environmental control systems or sonar recievers).
The attraction of Canada for military industry...
Why aren't we ordering Eurofighters then, they are still producing them. Why Gripen...
Threatening sovereignty caused a reaction. Lets not pretend that the annexation of Canada threat was a joke or a negotiating piece. It was an actual proposition. Just like the Greenland stuff. I doubt...
Lets ignore the whole economic benefits conversation for a second.
I don't get the whole hate on the split fleet thing. Australia does it no problems, its part of their doctrine and has been for years (bomb trucks and air superiority). No reason we can't do a split fleet even with the costs...
Super disingenuous post and clear bias from the OP Tablesalt.
So we didn't read the first part of the message? You know that whole part about the building being for preventative maint for vehicles and mutli structured learning environment? If they had of left it like that no one would have...
You are not wrong, however... DRDC work that I personally have seen lead directly to improved CAF missions or equipment:
Flight deck management system for RCN/RCAF helicopter operations: No country in the world has a flight deck management system for helicopters operations on small ships...
The RCN's own tankers are coming into service starting Dec 2027, though will be in the RCN June 27. Those will be far more capable and we'll have two.
Asterix has done a great job. But its time for her to go her own way. There might be an extension for a year or two but that's it.
It's doctrinal, doesn't mean we're gonna do it for no reason.
Hell no one is sending proper warships into threatenes boxes right now.
Oh I saw it. First rocket attack 10 civi contractors noped right outta there. Self selected out within one week of getting there. Vast majority weren't cowards...
Your point is?
Just because it has been done doesn't mean it should be done. I recall lots of problems with civi contractors bailing in Afghanistan immediately after they realized the FOBs weren't necessarily safe.
Also FFS has a hard time keeping civilian crews, the Asterix is too austere...
The reason its a full military crew is because of the doctrinal use case.
PRO is expected to be able to go into the combat zone and resupply there. Asterix is expected to stay out of the combat zone and have ships leave to resupply and then go back on station.
Not saying PRO will always do...
Might be wrong, but it doesn't have to come from the PM or the MoD (MoD it should come from them but that's just me). Could be a press release. Or I could have the date wrong.
My expectation is that the fire control radar will be the SPY 7. It's going to be able to track outgoing rounds and adjust fire. Though that math is more complicated as it won't be calculating it from a single parallax location. I don't expect EOIR to be a method for targeting the main gun...
Cost Cofactors Manual (or whatever its called now) has the daily cost of the Halifax Class. The math is out there somewhere.
As for PRO's costs, we don't know yet, need to get her on the water and figure it out.
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