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I've had a look to the last CSC rendering and noticed that the (2) RAM launchers might be at the same deck than Nulka launchers. Then... why do not place the Nulkas in the EXLS and use their place to store the RAM missiles? Just my non-educated opinion.

Thanks for your inputs. Yeah, I had thought about firing angles and antennas, but a RAM there would face similar issues. On the other hand, ammunition is much cheaper and, depending on the threat, a gun might be an option.

Would it make sense to remove the EXLS cells and install instead a 40mm gun? Otherwise, what about keeping the EXLS and use if for Nulka decoys?

Meanwhile in the Mediterranean, by the end of 13th century... “No fish in the Mediterranean dares to raise its back above the waters without bearing the four stripes of the House of Aragon.” Kingdom of Aragon - Wikipedia And by the 14th century...

Regarding radar, of couse I am only guessing as I don't have access to the bid documents, but since the tender originally requested for an existing vessel , I tend to think Navatia opted to offer a proven radar. If they had been allowed (from the beginning) to offer the Spy-7 as they are using...

As far as I remember, Navatia was one of the three options along with Damen and BAE. The radar was top state-of-the-art at the time of delivery, sadly it has only be upgraded on the 5th and final frigate (launched several years after the 4th was delivered). Damage control should be in line with...

IMHO the MCDVs should be replaced by ... 6 x OPV, of about 2,000 tons, 40 crew and max. a 40mm gun, able to carry TRAPS and other payloads. Hangar for UAVs only, cheap to maintain on to operate 6 x Corvettes/light frigates, in the range of 3,000-5,000 tons, 90-110 crew, 16-32 VLS, something in...

https://www.serco.com/media/9740/atlas-120-light-frigate.pdf?1685563690 The 4,000 ton Atlas 120 frigate would also be a good point to start from. If the crewing requirements were a bit lower, in the 100-110 range, that would be perfect (IMHO)...

The EPC also has her small mission bay.

6 AOPS x 68 6 MCM/OPV (Vigilance) x 40? 4 JSS x 60 16 non combatants = 888 6 SSK batch I (off the shelf) x60? 6 SSK batch II ( more Arctic capable) x60? 12 subs = 720 6 CSC (River) ASW/GP x205 6 CSC AAW (with 48-64 VLS cells) x205? 6 Tier 2/Corvettes/light frigates x 90-110? 6...

As for Spanish S80+ : Good record of tech. transfer, see AUS Hobarts & Canberra, Turkish Anadolu and Saudi corvettes. Latest forecast is... S82 to be delivered in 2026, S83 in 2028, S84 in 2029 (I would rather say 2030). No further orders up to now, full availability I would say. The problem is...

Maybe replacing those 6 cells, in the Vigilance, with a 11- cell Sea-Ram mount would be an option.

Have you checked at Shapeways.com? They also have nice models.

Since Davie completed acquisition of Helsinki shipyards OY last year (IIRC) it has now two governments within NATO interested on creating jobs in their countries.

Thanks for the note. Since the cruise or antiship missiles would not be guided from the boat, I (erroneously) discarded the G.

After 9 years and 251 pages, would it be the time to start a new thread called anything like "River-class destroyers construction" ?

Following the "new established tradition" of four-letters acronyms, will these be called SSKA (attack submarines, Arctic)? maybe SSKM (M for missiles)? or just SSKT? (lol) Apart from that, some news on the Indian submarines procurement process...

Oooops, sorry, my error. I thought that each ExLS cell was equivalent to a mk.41 cell. After reviewing Lockheed Martin brochure, seems clear it is not ready for the loads I mentioned. Thanks for pointing me that. Then my question is... could it be possible to replace those 6 cells with a...

Would be a nonsense to remove those 6 ExLS cells if the weight balances allow to keep them. Possible uses: 24 x ESSM 6 x SM-2 6 x VLA (antisubmarines)

Since methanol and ethanol have much lower freezing point (and viscosity) than marine fuel. Would it be an option in the mid-long term to use them for propulsion in the Arctic? Much easier to store them at the refuelling station. Just asking.