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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I would like to revert to eighteen century nomenclature and classify the ships according to their number of guns VLS: Ticos (122) would be 1st rate Burkes (90-96) would be 2nd rate Constellation (32) ... frigates / 5th rate of course, Harpoons and NSM do not add, ... they're like the...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I still can't subscribe it would not be possible to get either one more mk41 VLS (8 cells) or 24 additional CAMM in the fore position like the Hunter-class or the City-class.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    The article is dated in april,... maybe the first? πŸ˜€πŸ˜‰ After reading "Deniability versus Utility: China’s Maritime Militia", from the Naval Association of Canada (NAC) here, i bet that they are in a better position for privateering.
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    Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS

    ... we know you really like stern ramps. πŸ˜‰
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    This report is dated 2019, but guess it may help. A brief toolbox description is included. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/05/this-is-what-the-future-belgian-dutch-mcm-motherships-will-look-like/
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/taiwan-china-submarines/ We have not taken into account the Taiwanese submarine for the Canadian Patrol Sub. Project. (just kidding, it does not seem to be easy for them to export their boats).
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    Here it is an update: https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/feindef/2021/11/03/amid-high-hopes-can-the-european-patrol-corvette-deliver/
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    Meanwhile in Oz, since the Hunter frigates program is not delivering combatants until next decade, some analysts start claiming for a second batch of Hobarts. https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/delivering-a-stronger-navy-faster/
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Thanks for the input. As long as the germans are there, the name doesn't matter so much. Name it 216 (new, unproven design) name it 212CD variant for Canada (departing from an on-going project). Let's the germans make their best offer according to (yet to be set) Canadian requirements. ;-) This...
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    Well, just found today a patrol ship which combines the stern ramp with a crane for containers by placing them under the pad, which is provided with hatches. Don't really know if this is a useful configuration, for instance to use a containerized TAS (TRAPS) there will be some 10-12 meters...
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    BAE, Vard, Lurssen and Naval Group... Damen is missing, let me bring in its 1800 OPV (even though I'd rather like the 2400 or 2600 designs). A local version is being built in Malaysa. She provides hangar for up to Sea King or NH90 helicopters, should not be very difficult to redesign for a...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Take your rests, wish you get good news tomorrow.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Harvard II: Wingspan: 33 ft 5 in (10.19 m) Height: 10 ft 8 in (3.25 m) Empty weight: 4,707 lb (2,135 kg) Max takeoff weight: 6,500 lb (2,948 kg) Cruise speed: 320 mph (510 km/h, 280 kn) Range: 1,000 mi (1,700 km, 900 nmi) V280 Width: 81.79 ft (24.93 m) Height: 23 ft 0 in (7 m) Empty weight...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    V280 Valor tilt-rotor will, most likely, be operative before Canada operates a Mistral type LHD. Not comparable to the F35-B but still may be a good asset for close aerial support and to deploy troops faster and at longer ranges.
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    The article says the Brits don't need more ASW platforms, yet they are building five Type 31 GP (general purpose) frigates to increase the numbers... and obviously because of a question of resources, both human and financial. Originally they were going to build 13 Type 26 but had to revert and...
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    I agree with that. Nevertheless I think some of us are mixing ideas by trying to be pragmatic and rational. If the replacement could be one-to-one, assuming that AOPS are an addition of capabilities, maybe the best option would be to have a mix of a few (6 to 8) small, lightly armed, updated...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    For those who (like myself) would like RCN had SSNs... there is a series of three articles (up to now) by Peter Briggs in the Australian ASPI . The last one provides interesting assessment on the training requirements and planning for their future nukes...
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    Do you think that other countries, such as UK, France or Italy do have spare resources to invest in corvettes or general purpose frigates? Or might it be that, precisely due to the scarcity of resources, have opted instead for a more economical, mixed fleet of AAW/ASW/GP frigates? Note: call...
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    Depending on what we want them to do... a) for patrolling in Africa, gulf of Aden or anti-piracy ... something between the AOPS and the CSC. Either the Type 31 or the next EPC (south-European Patrol Corvette). Crew about 100...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    I also see joining KSS 3, Walrus replacement or Type 212CD as the best options. Any other alternative would be a customized design/ orphan class. I would not discard a mixed submarine fleet in the future: six SSKs and three SSNs of those to be built for Australia. SSKs to be delivered in the...
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