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TKMS has purchased a 2nd yard and made significant $$investments to expand their production capacity. They currently can build 2 boats per year and will expand that to 4+ boats to deal with their current backlog of 20+ boats Busy place. They have hinted getting the CPSP deal will allow them...

The first Type 212 CD had its keel laid in 2023, is approx 80% complete and on schedule for a 2029 delivery

Or maybe we can trade with Norway . . . a River class/Type 26 ship for one of their early delivery Type 212CD boats?

Favour but not likely disqualify the 212CD

Big boat for a small Baltic

Or TKMS would look at all the nations under contract (Norway, Poland) and shipyards that currently build Type 21(X) boats like Italy and optimize a global production chain that does final assembly of boats in Germany. And Canada, a producer of MK 48 torpedo tubes (size format compatible with...

A very informative discussion . . .

Not so sure Carney is transactional enough to abandon his hardcore climate crisis/hysteria beliefs to support an oil pipeline to the west coast. Although it would be fun watching Eby lube up and pretzel himself into axcepting one. The middle ground might be to revive the old railway proposal...

Simply pointing out the known design and capabilities of the two boats in comparison to the known very high level RCN SoR is being realistic. Not jumping on the “bigger boat is better” bandwagon is being realistic. We have so little actual factual information to work with, the boat’s specs...

The same amount HO is

Good one 😂😂😂

any data to support this statement?

Bigger boat needs more power to move around, if a smaller boat meets the mission spec, the extra boat mass is just aburden

Why?

Sikorsky did make claims And then the RCAF and the RCN wnet down the Engineering Chance Request rabbit hole and the schedule went sideways. That whole Fly By Wire upgrade was a fiasco

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In an era of staggering deficits and huge demands on DND’s budget, paying for a technology/weapons system that we might use in X years down the road would be difficult decision to justify

Both the KSS III and the 212CD are currently in production . Both firms have publicly stated they can meet the RCNs delivery schedule

Very good article. Looks like it will come down to what mission the RCN is prioritizing . . . A ++stealthy dedicated Hunter Killer boat for the ASW mission or a hybrid Boomer/Hunter Killer that provides exceptional land attack power projection. His article makes multiple references to the KSS...

The public version of the mission endurance requirement is a transit distance of 3500NM to the assigned patrol area, then a submerged, zero discretion patrol time of 21 days and then a return transit of 3500NM. Which translates into a total mission duration of about 60-65 days Both boats can...