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Buddy, I just want to hang out with you, split a pitcher, eat some wings and swap salty stories. I'm not going to get all hung up on something that will or will not be completed well after I retire. If the contract gets reduced or whatever it gets reduced. It won't be the first or last time.

Oh no, Babcock partnered with Hanwha. And the submarine maintenance community are NOT Babcock fans. Edit: As for the maint facility, they have the realestate all picked out on the Colwood side of the harbour.

You're making assumptions. What about TKMS building out a yard here. Like they've done in half a dozen other countries. They are quite good at it. Other thoughts if this is the case then its a slam dunk for TKMS. It further supports my point from earlier about Canada wanting direct defence...

German sub is totally fine. This is just Liberal/government bashing. How is anything in this statement more or less valid depending on which submarine was picked? And the sub community is loving this either way. From those I've talked too they were just excited to get new things.

Personal bias - I was pulling for KSS III. However I always said I wouldn't complain about the CD212. Its an amazing piece of technology. They will produce the sub in the timeframe the contract requires which is IOC 2035. Here on our boards our value matrix's are different than in the...

Because the US is starting with Mexico and intentionally excluding us. Quite literally this was said on multiple Canadian, US and Mexican news outlets during and interview buy the US trade negotiator in March and again in May. This is old news from March reframed from a biased perspective.

Yah but the Germans and Norwegiens will correct your English. The proficiency and % who know English is much higher in Europe.

No one here should be telling you the numbers. But any ships/boats in refit don't have full crews. They never do. Adding 12 subs is a massive lift. The RCN is undergoing an insane period of transition. All new trades. Increase in numbers to be trained across the fleet. Completely new ways of...

Yah you did. Get a package of pins, since you spent the money that should cancel out the problems.

We will soon be moving to recruiting submariners right off the street. It will be its own occupation. There is a lot of folks who think subs are super interesting and getting them to self select earlier is a good start. This will also be a big cultural transition for the RCN. We were always a...

I think we are overstating the butt hurt. TKMS has a full order sheet, they sell submarines all over the world (like 45 or something still sailing). The Germans have lost competitions before (the Polish one most recently) and they will express their disappointment and move on. What are they...

A100 is CODAD MW PDE. So no need for the WARP if one were to go that particular engineering route. But there is also something to be said for having a simple ship, that isn't overly complicated.

I agree that this will be an announcement probably with a submarine in the background. It won't be at NATO.

What I like about the MEKO A series is also what I don't like about them. The engineering arrangment that has the exhaust pushed out the stern while being cooled is very interesting. This creates a significant increase in upper deck space for sensors, weapons, equipment as you dont have a...

Doubtful. Two different yards. Sub yards are specialized.

Maybe sooner than later.

Was able to get some photos close up of the RCD model (the one bought by HMCS STAR somehow, I have no idea how they did that and got it approved. It costs about 40k).

Check this article out https://www.navylookout.com/in-focus-the-meko-a-200-type-31e-frigate-candidate/ I find the engineering arrangement super interesting. Probably not for us as the waterjet with ice resistance is not something I think we want to get into. However lots of interesting ideas...

Just a turn of a phrase. MEKO 100 is smaller than that. A-200 is a proper frigate though

CMS 330 was specifically designed to be able to easily integrate weapons and sensor from basically any supplier. As @NavyShooter pointed out we've integrated some German systems already. The list already includes the entire weapons, electronic warfare and radar suites of the Halifax Class, NZ...