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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    I understand. I think if we continue to do things like this submarine contract, where the military narrows the selection down to two acceptable options, and then hands it over to the public service to do their calculations things will be better. Though there is some potential for problems...
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    Ukraine Skif

    Ukraines usage of the M113 is particular. It's commonly used for supply and med runs to the front lines at night, where there is a rapid exchange of people, ammo, food and then a sprint back to safety before the ISR finds them and artillery or drones hit. Aluminum armour is probably perfectly...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Not even close. Where the hell did you read that out of what I wrote? The DIS is there to give Canada jobs and ensure that we have control over as much of our defence as possible. Any government doing that correctly will get "more votes" but in this case it's a side effect not the design.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    The Euro relationship will continue whether we get the KSS or not. But the Korean relationship may be harder to solidify without it. That being said I think the defining point of the decision is what the industrial benifits look like. DIS will be the template on which this decision will be made.
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    PRO is delayed enough and PRE is ahead enough that they might be less than six months apart. Honestly this might turn into a Halifax/Vancouver situation at this point... PRO also has way more first of class trials to do that PRE won't need to do. The retain Asterix.campaign will fail based...
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    Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

    I think it looks amazing. And meets the RFI. Bunch of tracked simps over on this thread. (ducks for cover as rounds incoming expected... lol). Seriously though, its friggin huge.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Timelines don't seem to appear anywhere in the % for bid points. If they can meet IOC by '35 then they meet the contract requirements. There may be a few points in some other category that includes delivery timelines but I don't see it. You can only judge things on the criteria that exist...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    This is from the model that was revealed a month ago. I have no idea. Their placement near the NSM might matter or it might just be a space where they won't get RAM garbage on them. Often those sorts of places are for antennae of various sorts. SATCOM antennae, or perhaps its something for...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    OSI and LMC got together like peanut butter and jam. OSI are amazing.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    They don't have auto industry in their bid. Hanwa does with their maint and build factory for army vehicles. If they lose that is likely why.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    S2170 is a Towed torpedo countermeasure (SSTD is its other name). It just also detects and classifies the torp. It's basically a Nixie with a sensor. Only change I could find on that factsheet besides the picture was LEED. Seems like they pretty much know where they are going now. If only...
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    Canada to buy Polish drones, deepen defense ties by leveraging EU SAFE funds

    It's coming. Those are likely for Latvia and an immediate need. RCN has a few projects on the go with Canadian manufacturers and one with Austria (using Canadian optics).
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    I took a look at it up close. If you swapped out the 127mm for a 57mm it would be a good fit. Unlike SK we don't need shore bombardment capability on our light frigates. The flight deck was tiny in comparison to our own. It had a single fire control radar and looked like a SMART-S...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Spoke to someone in submarine community yesterday. Some interesting perspectives. They we speaking about challenges and likes of each program, but not necessarily considerations for the competition. Both subs they would be super happy with. The KSS is something we have no experience with...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Photo editing AI to the rescue. Thanks @Stoker
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    All part of the cultural exchange.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Well I almost boomer thumb photo's these but fortunately I'm a Gen Xer so only partially obscured! Saved some sailors from the Korean Frigate from being eaten by a Canada Goose. They got a little too close to take a photo... lmao
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Lol I was thinking the exact same thing. It's needed though.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Nice, they get the fancy new jetty. Good hosting call for whomever made that decision. Give the guest the best. Also "I'll take 11 more of these please!"
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    Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

    There is a school of though that points to combat aerospace as being the "most expensive" of defence investments. It takes an enormous amount of resources to design and build fighter aircraft of quality. The reasoning is similar to the boom bust cycle of warship building in Canada. To keep...
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