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I'd like to see some of that new defence industrial development money go to these guys: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/futureflight/2025-06-09/horizon-boosted-transition-flight-cavorite-vtol-demonstrator

Same for me today. Slow to load, often timing out.

Looks like not BVS10, but rather the ST Engineering ExtremV, which is very similar in function to the BVS10. https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/roshel-to-manufacture-singapores-extremv-tracked-vehicle-in-canada-for-arctic-mobility-program

Which allows the extra fuel for increased endurance to give it Expeditionary capabilities, something Canada wants. Seems like a pretty substantial improvement to me.

Another example of how committed the Koreans are: https://canadiandefencereview.com/hanwha-ocean-of-south-korea-signs-mous-with-canadian-partners-at-cansec-2025/

Looks like they are offering the 212 CD. If that's the case, I vote for KSSIII. If it was the 212 CDE, I might be more inclined to "like" that offer. That was a substantially improved version of the CD, though I don't know how developed it was. It was offered to the Netherlands for their sub...

Isn't what you are describing Class C service?

It wasn't clear to me they were pitching KSS-111 or the Future Submarine at CPSP.

Minister's speech here: https://www.cpac.ca/headline-politics/episode/minister-mcguinty-speaks-at-cansec-military-trade-show--may-28-2025?id=7546092c-ac9f-4238-a2da-e3fe095e0a36

Ah crap! There goes that theory. Still hope I'm right, as I'm sure everyone else on this forum does. We should probably have even more than 16, realistically. Awful big country to cover....

It occurs to me we're going to have a ton of MX-20 spares once the CP-140s start getting retired, so probably don't need any extra. I'm going to keep with my thesis this purchase of two more is an indicator that the two options are going to be exercised. Not because it's logical, just because I...

Thought I'd open a thread on CANSEC, given there are often procurement announcements, such as the one below: https://www.saab.com/markets/canada/saab-receives-order-from-canada-for-the-carl-gustaf-m4-weapon

Interesting. 16 x Wescam MX-20s have ordered. Is this a clue that Canada will exercise the options for two more P8s? Up to now the order was for 14, with an Option for 2 more...

I think they only built about 80 before the program was cancelled. I agree they should be donated, if the USA doesn't want them.

Hartlen Point? I thought that was Assiniboine, but I haven't been paying much attention to that, so it's possible it's now Athabaskan?

Spain has integrated SPY-7 and Aegis. This should de-risk our same effort with the River class. https://armyrecognition.com/news/navy-news/2025/spanish-f-110-frigates-integrate-aegis-and-spy-7-for-improved-multi-threat-detection-and-engagement-at-sea

Especially with this apparent "rapprochement" with Europe on defence matters. I fear the sub decision will get swept up in this.

It's funny. This platform gets a lot of hate on this forum, but the aircrew I've spoken with seem to like it. It's not perfect, but most of the complaints are around systems. Mechanically they seem to be quite robust. Are there any Cyclone aircrew on here that can comment?

I certainly can appreciate there would be the cost of the terminals plus some integration work. Maybe some airframe certification for any mods such as antennas. But I still can't see this being a $300Million program. To be honest, I'm shocked these were delivered without Link 16 (or 22) as part...

Something doesn't add up. I've seen the Link 16 terminal - it's the size of a shoe box. Why would this cost $300million?