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  1. oldcpu

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I can only speculate, having retired decades ago from the RCN. Possibly like yourself, my speculation is 3 for the first 3 ships, and where there is one extra (ie total 4 in this initial procurement) then the 4th is possibly for a land training site. I suspect the same logic applies for the...
  2. oldcpu

    Drones and Naval Culture

    One area of interest, albeit not for Canada (as Canada is not in the drone carrier (nor aircraft carrier) business), is that there is development work going on in regards to AEW drones. One example is the Mojave (STOL demonstrator for the MQ-9B drone). First I note this drone can operate off...
  3. oldcpu

    Drones and Naval Culture

    I did not see a consolidated list in this thread as to potential use of the Halifax class planned Schiebel CAMCOPTER® S-100 drones. So if I may speculate, I note: . Believed officially stated by RCN functions for the Schiebel CAMCOPTER® S-100 drones (I could be wrong here): Long Range...
  4. oldcpu

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Since I did not notice this elsewhere on this thread, I thought useful to post a tidbit of information from this source where in January the US : https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CREC-2026-01-06/html/CREC-2026-01-06-pt1-PgS39-2.htm That link is to a US Congressional document (6-Jan-2026)...
  5. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    I agree with your sentiment ... I note thou, the RCN is not thinking of a CDC replacing a 10,000+ tonne River class destroyer. Rather the RCN is thinking of an arctic capable warship, with a similar fit to the less capable Halifax class, packaged in a slightly(?) smaller seasonal Arctic ice...
  6. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    I suspect most of us share that concern. Indeed. Political winds can change ... and consequences could be dire. My hope (in part) is that the cancellation costs for programs underway, will be such that a cancellation is too distasteful not only in terms of $$ but also in terms of public...
  7. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    I think, nominally navies need to assess why they need ships, and based on that the type of ship procured, if possible. My understanding from reading on the internet, that the RCN currently has planned, for the 2030s: 15 Type-26 River Class Destroyers 8 Harry DeWolf Class offshore patrol...
  8. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    Indeed. and you believe a 'battleship' design named after Trump is relevant enough to the Canadian design, that it must be covered in this thread on the Canadian Continental Defense Corvette? Well - I guess if that your view, given your post, that we will have to agree to disagree. Frankly...
  9. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    This is a thread about the Canadian Continental Corvette (last I looked) and not about battleships. Still, in response to this so-called plan, I think it important to note that the history of U.S. Navy (USN) procurement is marked by several ambitious "next-generation" programs that were...
  10. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    These large long range drones are 'all the rage' in various news articles, but in truth, they are very untested. Anyone who has been to sea knows equipment breaks down, either due to pounding/rolling of the sea, or due to the salty air, or simply due to manufacturing of some random part that...
  11. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    No you are not mistaken. But that was a different time when the RCN had both the manpower and the budget. Today the RCN (like the rest of DND) is starting to get the budget, but unfortunately, there is a major manpower issue , where even manning the procurement teams for already designed...
  12. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    Indeed ... I think in the most part our views are similar. As I noted previous, I am a believer in one or more UVX warship (or variants there of). In regards to the timeline, the RCN is moving forward now (from what I read) and is not waiting for the new corvettes nor new destroyers. I...
  13. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    Its conceivable a future system could use such, ... although at present I note that the Sea Spider (an anti-torpedo torpedo system) is intended to have its own dedicated launcher. ... To the best of my knowledge from reading unclassified sources, the RCN has no plans to procure Sea Spider...
  14. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    I agree. What you note was seen with the attacks in Operation ASPIDE and Operation Enduring Freedom, where as I noted, warships were under continual attack from launch locations that were located far away. It is a testament to the layered defense and readiness of the western naval forces that...
  15. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    My own view is such would work in the first week or two of a conflict. Only in first week or two. Maybe less. ... but after that the Command and Control of such would fail, as they would be jammed, and their means to navigate jammed, regardless whether they use very low frequency, or HF, or...
  16. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    Yes. Its been that way pretty much since the invention of the torpedo re attack devices and larger warships. This is an issue going back >100 years in WW-I, but in a different form today. Later, in WW-II we saw this with aircraft (to attack ships) where aircraft were massively less expensive...
  17. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    One must also thou ,note for the defense against torpedoes, and hence the defence against "drones that park themselves on the bottom" has never been greater in terms of defense. ASW capable surface warships in the more technology advanced nations stream behind their ships towed arrays that are...
  18. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    As noted above, my apologies to the forum. I am new to this forum and I did not know the history of that source going back some time. I researched this (and the source) and I understand now. It also explains a bit about the unreliability of the $5-billion Cdn$ number.
  19. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    My apologies to the forum. No need for the mods to elaborate. I am new to this forum and did not know the history of that source going back some time. I researched this (and the source) and I understand now. It also explains a bit about the unreliability of the $5-billion Cdn$ number.
  20. oldcpu

    Continental Defence Corvette

    How many drones does one need? I guess that depends on the definition of the threat? Are the UAVs only for surveillance? Are they to be suicide drones? If the later, then likely the more that are carried the better. Is an ISTAR drone the appropriate drone if a warship has a full up UVX...
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