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Rob, they are UCO, according to the CM brief. Unfortunately PML does not equal TES, which is still affecting some ATC units.

Indeed, but the occupation has gone from 20% below PML to achieving PML in less than 3 years. This was enabled by moving "common" to DL and adding more "core" to CFSACO.

While AEC selection testing is now implimented most of those processed through that system are still in university (ROTP intake). As such recent CFSACO AEC grad levels persist at the 50% rate. As a side note the training backlog is quickly disappearing. The second half of 2013 should see...

Your background is fine what is important at this point is whether the occupation is open to external applicants. Just drop in or call a recruiting office.

Congrats... was it as scary as you thought it would be?

Just remember that while the academics are challenging at CFSACO they are not rocket science. The fact that you meet the CFAT criteria is fairly good indication that you will not have issues with what could arguably called grade 11/12 level stuff. Its how you apply that stuff that is the usual...

Without that oft-noted substandard DL portion there would likely be no AEC training at all as the occupation was on the verge of collapse not so long ago. Core as DL was a means to end... ramping up graduate production. There was always the understanding we could return to in-house Core when the...

Not sure of your particular circumstance but it seems odd that you have been waiting that long. The backlog is a recent phenomena.

I am sorry to announce that things are not looking good for folks wanting to join AEC this year (2011) especially if they intended to join via DEO (civilian university) or CEOTP (direct from high school). With the exception of ROTP (military college), we will be closed to external intake for at...

Have they rejected the notion of you joining in another open officer occupation? The timeline for OT as an NCM or an Officer will not be significantly different. Mind you some officer qualifications do have much longer training programs and backlogs (not unlike AEC).

I can confirm everything you offered is indeed correct.

Well then, two birds with one stone... the answer is... ...both.

ATC doesn't have something like dedicated slots with NORAD or AWACS to draw it OUTCAN. TACP, Space and Missile Command postings, however, are generally not AWC specific. For ATCs, after a couple of operational type postings, usually move onto staff or training positions throughout the CF and...

No, those kind of distinctions are important as they engender training requirements and standards of expertise to be achieved/maintained. What do various wings show? Nothing other than you belong in an exclusive club. A club that offers nothing to its membership other than that exclusivity...

Common? ... no. Unusual? ... no. There are a rare few that have all three (AWC, IFR, VFR).

An unsual convergence occured this last year that has put the occupation in a odd osition of having to turn people away. After a decade of falling short of recruitment goals and attrition exceeding intake everthing reversed suddenly and dramaticly without real notice. Attrition dropped...

I find the fact that we even draw a distinction between one set of air force personnel and another rather sad. It reeks of elitism in an organisation that holds itself out as professional. As for AEC, with the exception of the badge, they are treated as aircrew even when not in a flying...

I hate when news orgs present scientific findings as if it is definitive or new. The simple fact of the matter is that all hearing is in your brain. Moreover, the phenomena of tinnitus continuing even after the auditory nerve has been severed has been known for years. Certainly the auditory...

Just to clarify... the occupation is Aerospace Control Operator.  There are two sub divisions (actually sub occupations) within that occupation: 00337.1. N.01 Aerospace Control Operator – Aerospace Operator [AC Op – Aero Op] 00337.1. N.02 Aerospace Control Operator – Radar Controller [AC Op –...

The training backlog is primarily the result of the system not being adequately prepared for the generous nature of the recources being offered at CFSAO. As I said in my PM, I waited 18 months for training some 20 years ago. Most pilots today would consider a only a year wait to be a luxury...