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Cloud Cover said:SR2 being the 2 watch system? 7/5/5/7?
MCDV's are not under the 2 watch system. We did trial straight 8's a while ago. SR2 is the readiness level.
Cloud Cover said:SR2 being the 2 watch system? 7/5/5/7?
Chief Stoker said:Current core crew is being looked at to be paired down to 16 for 8 hrs steaming, for hot moves, trials, day sails and the like. Regular SR2 steaming is 26 from current 36 core.
Chief Stoker said:MCDV's are not under the 2 watch system. We did trial straight 8's a while ago. SR2 is the readiness level.
IN ARDUA NITOR said:They certainly can be run in the 2 watch system (MSE 1:3) - I would expect CO's to modify rotations as needed to meet the mission. I sailed on CARIBBE in a 1:2 (MSE 1:3) and everyone 1:3 except the Ops Room in a 1:2 - lots of different configurations available including "Super sixes" etc. I still haven't heard much feedback about the S8's trial, which is odd given my day job.
Chief Stoker said:They can but we really haven't seen much of it. I was on the S8's trial and incidentally during a Sea Training program, very interesting in the fatigue level.
IN ARDUA NITOR said:I think there is much more work to do IOT justify a significant reduction in crewing without an equal measure of automation. NR2 should be 31-33, based on 20+ years of experience running the ships. We would be well advised not to reduce our manning and increase the risk assumed by our folks at sea without a proper analysis in advance. My two cents.
Czech_pivo said:Well they got rid of the 40mm, so that’s got to count for 2 persons right there.
Underway said:I'll take the Kingston every time every day of the week against that threat. "Thugs" are never determined against an armed foe. That's why they are thugs. If you are going to count AK47's then I guess the MCDV should count the multiple C7 and C9's that are onboard. And of course the most important things the mass and maneuver of the ship and the professionalism of the crew. This is why we have Intelligence, if there was a true threat we would send a CPF.
Not those 40mm. Take it from someone who holds the Weapons Directing Officer qual on the Bofors and the .50 cal. That 40mm was the McBeth gun. Full of sound and fury signifying nothing. The only thing it was good for was hitting our own deck (which happened), killing a nasty floating tomato or a helicopter in hover. All jobs the .50 cal can do really well. I can't even think of a time where the 40mm was even used for true warning shots (perhaps it has...). The .50 cal is far more flexible of a weapons system and just better all round for everything the MCDV does.
Also what do we ask of the people onboard an MCDV to do? It has never needed a 40mm or a 35mm of any sort.
The AOPS is going to take over a lot of the MCDV roles in the future. So perhaps the MCDV will go back to more domestic, route survey and minehunting operations.
That said given the option of a 25mm similar to the AOPS I would take it in a heartbeat but who's going to do arming, repair and maint on the thing? The MCDV's only carry a single WEng Tech for Nav and Comms systems. They aren't going to include an Armament Tech as well. The navy is experimenting with reducing crew on MCDV's not increasing crew. Tough decisions here.
Chief Stoker said:Yes as it stands lots of plans for automation but nothing done so far in that regard. I have over 20 years with the class as well and the trial is to see if this is even possible.
Wait.....THIS isn't your favourite website?!FSTO said:... but my favorite website has done a pretty good synopsis.
SeaKingTacco said:Wow. You could pretty much word replace "USN" with "CAF" in this document and you would still be bang on.
Journeyman said:Wait.....THIS isn't your favourite website?!rly:
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SeaKingTacco said:Wow. You could pretty much word replace "USN" with "CAF" in this document and you would still be bang on.
jollyjacktar said:I had a quick peek at Harry from Barrington St today as l passed by. Damn they're funny looking. For the size of the nose end, they look pretty squashed. Kind of reminded me of a pig. Squat and solid but not attractive. I realize they need that size and shape to go where they're intended, but they just don't appeal to my eyes.
Czech_pivo said:Interesting article on the new US proposed Coast Guard icebreakers and their intent to 'heavily' arm them. Looks like we'll be the ones bringing the knife to the gunfight - :nod:
http://www.wearethemighty.com/news/the-coast-guard-wants-heavy-firepower-on-their-new-icebreakers
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/17/coast-guard-wants-cruise-missiles-arctic-icebreake/