Army Highschool?

[Blunt Object]

I didn't know where to post this and I figured it would get the most attention here so sorry if this is the wrong board.

I was thinking the other day. Me and many of my friends have all wanted to join the army for some time now. The part that sucks is I'm going to be the only one who can join anytime soon because none of them meet the high school or educational requirements.

That's why I think it would be good idea to offer some sort alternative such as a Military school. You could go there everyday and learn about the military life style (drill, deportment, tactics, weapons training etc...). This way you could have soldiers who have been trained for years before they actually join the army.

I know there would obviously be lots of expenses and stuff like that, but I think that way we could open the doors to a larger stronger military seeing as I'm sure there are lots of smart, intellectual people that would like to serve in the forces but can't because of some  stupid education paper.

I'm pretty sure they used to have schools like that because I've heard of people talking about my highschool (Westdale in Hamilton, Ont) and how it used to be the official school for the ASH of C and how used for military stuff.

I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar opinion.

 

[mover1]

have you ever heard of CADETS? The RESERVES? Both are outstanding organisations that do just what you are talking about.

 

[tree hugger]

Check with your school to see if there are any co-op reserve courses running next year.

 

[Blunt Object]

I know what cadets is (most of the time a joke, no offense to anyone) and i know what the reserves are, but what I'm saying is there should be something like highschool for people that have their sights set on a career in the army but can't stand going to school.

I know many of my friends would make amazing soldiers but they can't stand going to school (frankly neither can I) and because of this they are screwed out of enlisting unless they wait untill they are 19 and can write thier  GED exam.

 

[c4th]

I'm sure there are lots of smart, intellectual people that would like to serve in the forces but can't because of some   stupid education paper.

Who are not at least 17 years of age with a grade 10 education?  If there are they have motivational issues. 

Stay in school lads.

 

[andpro]

Do you mean like a High school version of RMC? Or a school where you only learn military? if thats it then it is a really bad idea. From what I have learned from this forum the military supports a good education. If you want to make it far you would be smart to stay in school.

 

[Blunt Object]

Ya a highschool version of RMC that can be used as an alternative to the 15 credits needed. I know school is important and I plan on finishing (sometime this decade I hope) but it just sucks.

 

[plattypuss]

Nothing in Canada like that, although the US if full of them, however given their current recruiting woes, they may become scarcer.  Here is a short list of US Schools, perhaps they have a foreign student policy if your parents would go for the high price of education - although they would save money on groceries etc ;D

Admiral Farragut Academy, St. Petersburg, FL
Army and Navy Academy, Carlsbad, CA
Carson Long Military Institute, New Bloomfield, PA
Culver Academies, Culver, IN
Hargrave Military Academy, Chatham, VA
Howe Military School and Summer Camp, Howe, IN
Kingswood School, N.E. Somerset, UK
Massanutten Military Academy, Woodstock, VA
Missouri Military Academy, Mexico, MO
New York Military Academy, Cornwall-on-Hudson, NY
Randolph-Macon Academy, Front Royal, VA
Riverside Military Academy, Gainesville, GA
St. John's Military School, Salina, KS
St. John's Northwestern Military Academy, Delafield, WI
Valley Forge Military Academy, Wayne, PA

As a caution however I would recommend you watch an old movie called TAPS.

 

[48Highlander]

Ya a highschool version of RMC that can be used as an alternative to the 15 credits needed. I know school is important and I plan on finishing (sometime this decade I hope) but it just sucks.

Get your parents to shell out the $20,000 a year required to send you to a private military academy.  I just hope you realize that, no matter the method of instruction or type of atmosphere, you're still going to be learning the same material.  If your only real problem is that you find school boring and have trouble motivating yourself to go (like I did), then a military academy will help motivate you to learn.  Personaly, I figured that it'd be much better to put in some extra effort at motivating myself than to blow $20,000 a year to have someone else do it for me.

Nothing in Canada like that, although the US if full of them, however given their current recruiting woes, they may become scarcer.

Wrong, they DO exist in Canada.  Robert Land Academy, for example, is one.  And how exactly would "recruiting woes" impact private military academies?  ???

As a caution however I would recommend you watch an old movie called TAPS.

Don't be silly.

 

[c4th]

Get your parents to shell out the $20,000 a year required to send you to a private military academy.

I'll march anyone to and from high school for $19,000 per year.  Discounts for brothers and sisters.

 

[dutchie]

That's why I think it would be good idea to offer some sort alternative such as a Military school. You could go there everyday and learn about the military life style (drill, deportment, tactics, weapons training etc...).

They already have that, it's called BMQ/SQ.

I'm sure there are lots of smart, intellectual people that would like to serve in the forces but can't because of some   stupid education paper.

How smart are these people if they can't get past Grade 10?

 

[plattypuss]

48Highlander

In the US for example, parents may not want to send their children to a military academy which may continue their interest in joining the military.   The same reason why US recruiters are finding more and more opposition to their relatively free access to high schools to conduct recruiting drives.  Something to do with their sons and daughters dying in Iraq.  If your parents won't support you, you won't be attending.

Thanks for the info the Canadian Military school, very interesting. Apparently Vimy Academy in Edmonton is one as well although on their site I think they mention they are public...

 

[aesop081]

I know there would obviously be lots of expenses and stuff like that, but I think that way we could open the doors to a larger stronger military seeing as I'm sure there are lots of smart, intellectual people that would like to serve in the forces but can't because of some   stupid education paper.

Sounds alot like the CFAT Q&A thread we had.

"what do you meant i can't join becasue i faile the test...its my right to join, you are just trying to screw me"

Whats next ? " what do you mean i cant get promoted to SGT because i failed my QL6A ?"

 

[paracowboy]

school's boring, huh? Suck it up. Finish High School.

 

[Pieman]

Not saying it is a bad thing, but the Canadian military school is geared towards students who are not functioning in the regular system and usually require extra attention and discipline that can be found in a military school environment

http://www.robertlandacademy.com/

Over 75 staff assist students in developing self-confidence and self-worth through genuine academic achievement and personal maturation.

Boys are admitted based upon their potential for success. Many have experienced difficulties related to attitude, concentration, focus, respect, or have been diagnosed as ADD, ADHD, ODD, or LD. The majority experience an increase of at least one full grade in their marks within their first year at the academy.

I was also very interested in attending a Military school when I was about to enter into high school. I wish I had that option. I looked into a few military schools in the states, but it was well beyond my parents capabilities to pay, and I was not interested in the Robert land academy due to the fact   it is for people who are having trouble in the normal system (I wasn't)

I wonder if there is enough demand in Canada for a military H.S. aimed at people with academic drive, and who intend to move onto University or RMC?

 

[Gunner98]

I'm not sure what you think happens in the military, but Basic Training, Qualification Level 3,5,6 courses, Communications, First Aid, Individual Battle Task Standards, Primary & Advanced Leadership Qualification courses are an awful lot like being in "high" school.   It is not always exciting or taught by outstanding instructors in uniform.   If you don't have the discipline to shut up, sit down and learn at a grade 10 level, I'm not sure I want you sitting beside me in a trench with a loaded weapon.   The individual, collective, in-service, and out-service courses never end.   I have have been studying since I joined the CF 20 years at university. If you think Cadets is a joke, just imagine what basic training lectures on how to make a bed, how to dig a hole and how to crawl through the mud in the rain will satisfy your thurst for adventure.

If you don't have the patience and tolerance to finish what you started in high school, I might suggest you save your money and a recruiter's time until you grow up a little bit.

**Last Edit for grammar

 

[45506445210414924]

we'll put Gunner98, i had the same "thoughts" as Blunt Object. Dropped out of  school for two years, went and worked my ass off for a measly 6 bucks flipping flippin burgers haha, not worth it went back to school and im in my final week and i'll finally have that piece of paper in my hand proudly going into the Canadian Forces. Never had the motivation to sit down and pay attention to what the teacher said, but it comes back and bites you in the @$$(especially when your buddy is a grade 12 graduate making $20/hour   
My best advice, keep motivated for the military and tell yourself and your buddies if you/they want a career with the military you guys gotta get that grade 12, and if you choose not to go with the military, and stick it out in civi life, the best job you'll get without your diploma is a $10 job changing oil at jiffy lube haha, i think now adays they even require you to have gr 12  :

Dont let anyone tell you that you cant do it man, and its only up to YOU

goodluck

 

[c4th]

I wonder if there is enough demand in Canada for a military H.S. aimed at people with academic drive, and who intend to move onto University or RMC?

Maybe, but RMC certainly doesn't need to be interested and there are not many other Universities that are having a hard time filling their class-rooms.  Recruiting offices get hundreds of applications a year for RMC from high school graduates with straight A's, team sports, cadet experience, community service etc....

Those who are selected have at least some demonstrated self-discipline and academic drive.  A one last stop before dropout or juvenile detention is unlikely to produce the potential officer candidates we are looking for.

 

[Lost_Warrior]

  but I think that way we could open the doors to a larger stronger military 

-Stronger?  Probably not.  Bigger?  Probably.  But whats the use having a big army of idiots who don't have the discipline, patience or intelligence to pass something as simple as high school?

a career in the army but can't stand going to school. 

Well.  Sorry to break it to you,. but the army just isn't for you.  There is, unfortunately, a lot of class room stuff, and a lot of stuff to study.  Much of it you have to pass or thats it...you get the boot...

If you cant stand school, maybe a profession as a pan handler? 

 

[jerrythunder]

Join the reserves and finish high school, ...

yeah thats actually the best option for a person still in highschool who wants to join the army, why quit highschool and cut off any other options you have for other careers????