Canada to Spend $5.0Bil on AEW Aircraft (Saab Globaleye)

[Furniture]

As the title says, the PM has announced at CANSEC that Canada is planning to buy the GlobalEye.

Canada negotiating to buy Saab's GlobalEye airborne early warning aircraft

I'm sure there will be people upset by the choice, but it is a new capability for Canada that might prove useful despite limitations.

 

[brihard]

I've only half paid attention to this, but they were reworking it for AAR, right?

 

[Furniture]

I've only half paid attention to this, but they were reworking it for AAR, right?

That's my understanding, but I'm not sure of the timeline.

 

[ytz]

I was really hoping for the Phoenix. But our NATO refocus seems to be driving the GlobalEye.

 

[Cloud Cover]

What’s Phoenix…

Anyway, we’re really going to go into some very deep debt….

 

[Halifax Tar]

I was really hoping for the Phoenix. But our NATO refocus seems to be driving the GlobalEye.

I'm just glad a decision has been made. Now lets get these things in the air and working for us.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I'm just glad a decision has been made. Now lets get these things in the air and working for us.

Deeds, not words - right?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Deeds, not words - right?

Correct.

 

[calculus]

I'm just glad a decision has been made. Now lets get these things in the air and working for us.

I feel this decision reduces the chance of a Gripen buy, or at least reduces the number. It's a win for Saab (and Europe), which from Carney's perspective is an important consideration. I would not be surprised an F35 announcement will be favourable to the US.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I feel this decision reduces the chance of a Gripen buy, or at least reduces the number. It's a win for Saab (and Europe), which from Carney's perspective is an important consideration. I would not be surprised an F35 announcement will be favourable to the US.

Good analysis.

 

[brihard]

Yeah, if we buy Gripens, cool, but it should be on top of and augmenting the full F-35 order, not replacing any of it.

 

[PuckChaser]

Merged duplicate threads. This can be for all things Globaleye.

 

[GK .Dundas]

I feel this decision reduces the chance of a Gripen buy, or at least reduces the number. It's a win for Saab (and Europe), which from Carney's perspective is an important consideration. I would not be surprised an F35 announcement will be favourable to the US.

I would have preferred the EA7 politics be damned if only this one time.
The Wedgetail has one great advantage over the Globaleye. Endurance, you will note that I didn't say range. Because that's something different.

 

[Rainbow1910]

Hopefully the Canadian Govt can manage to integrate air to air refueling into the GlobalEye, an AEW aircraft on the ground might as well not be one. We're also going to lose out on proper datalinks to AEGIS and F-35 with GlobalEye unless everybody agrees to integrate MADL.

 

[The Bread Guy]

For the record, info-machine version of the Saab announcement:

The Government of Canada selects preferred supplier for Airborne Early Warning and Control discussions - Canada.ca

Today, the Honourable Stephen Fuhr, Secretary of State (Defence Procurement), announced that the Government of Canada is entering into discussions with Saab of Sweden as the preferred supplier for the Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEWC) capability.

www.canada.ca

Backgrounder: Canada is strengthening defence, sovereignty, and industrial capacity through investments and partnerships - Canada.ca

Canada is making generational investments to strengthen national defence, reinforce sovereignty, modernize military capabilities, and build a stronger Canadian defence industrial base.At CANSEC 2026, the Government of Canada is advancing initiatives that support operational readiness, accelerate...

www.canada.ca

Prime Minister Carney announces major new defence partnership as part of new initiatives to transform Canadian defence procurement

The Saab GlobalEye combines airborne early warning and control with long-range air, sea, and land surveillance in real time from a single platform.

www.pm.gc.ca

 

[ytz]

I would have preferred the EA7 politics be damned if only this one time.
The Wedgetail has one great advantage over the Globaleye. Endurance, you will note that I didn't say range. Because that's something different.

Based on what? They are close. The biggest problem is AAR. Hopefully ours will be AAR capable.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I feel this decision reduces the chance of a Gripen buy, or at least reduces the number. It's a win for Saab (and Europe), which from Carney's perspective is an important consideration. I would not be surprised an F35 announcement will be favourable to the US.

Agreed.

 

[ytz]

I know some of the project staff. Absolutely sucks getting a political decision forced on your project. But I guess such are the times. And we should be happy that we're finally getting a sovereign AEW capability.

I also know a lot of ABMs aren't going to be happy giving up those OUTCANs at Tinker and Elmendorf for North Bay.

 

[ytz]

Hopefully the Canadian Govt can manage to integrate air to air refueling into the GlobalEye, an AEW aircraft on the ground might as well not be one. We're also going to lose out on proper datalinks to AEGIS and F-35 with GlobalEye unless everybody agrees to integrate MADL.

Really hope we're going to lead some kind of NRE effort to incorporate AAR, MADL and possibly even an improved sensor, that we can share with NATO.

I am really curious how security and certification will be managed with this. Needs to be CAN/US for NORAD. But so much is sourced from Sweden.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Based on what? They are close. The biggest problem is AAR. Hopefully ours will be AAR capable.

You can carry a replacement crew and possibly some techs as well. There are other ways of increasing endurance aside from refueling.
Also you can more capabilities far easier given the larger size of the aircraft.