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Canada's tanks

From the linked article:

And as for the timelines on the XM-30 (and for the M1E3 as well if they are able to align production) this is from the Congressional Research Service backgrounder on the XM-30
yeah i read it before. Not much there,there.

Im not going to get too excited over a tracked IFV but FRP for 2030 for the MBT is 6 yrs right off the bat but we wouldnt be getting any from the first production runs, thats why I threw out the 15 yrs. Yeah maybe we can assemble in London.

Weight reduction wise

autoloader?
less crew=smaller capsule?
fibre optics ?
composite armour?
hybrid drive?
 
That's an interesting post from several angles. For starters I've listened to some German reporters who seem to think this vehicle isn't so much the bridge to Leo 3 or MGCS but in fact is the initial version of Leo 3. Interestingly the speculation on MGCS was to be German Leo 2 type chassis with a lighter LeClerc 2 man turret which already had an autoloader. The Leo 2 A-RC3.0 will lose most of the weight of its forebearers by virtue of its lighter turret and the concept of moving the LeClerc turret crew into the hull is a small step. So we're possibly not only seeing the Leo 3 but also the MGCS here.

The question that I'm left with is whether or not there is an upgrade path from older Leo 2s like the A4 and A6 to the, let's just call it a Leo 3. From what I read the hull and automotives are essentially the same as current Leo 6/7. The hull changes are therefore relatively minor, dealing primarily with the crew move, with all the real new stuff happening in the turret.

Edited to add: The 30mm RWS with an anti-drone/anti-air capability is a nice touch although the absence of a coaxial machine gun could restrict its capability in urban settings. The German press also reported a capability to control drones from inside the tank but was a bit vague as to whether there was a drone launcher integral to the tank itself or simply if this was an ability to control drones launched by a support team of some type.

It'll be fun to watch this space for the next year or so.

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opinions on the pivoting gun? vs active suspension?
Active suspension has been around for a while - it was in the predecessor for the Abram’s and Leo2 back when the Germans and Americans had a JV working on the MBT-70 concept. However it was notably dropped from both separate designs when the teams split.

I know some European tanks have used them - but there has always been questions about combat durability with the hydraulic setup for them and movement when the rear is raise to give extra gun depression in a hull/turret down situation.

That said, I cannot see the double trunnion system being light if it’s going to be robust.
When combined with the auto loader - one has to wonder if they are some specific loading positions it needs to be in.
 
Active suspension has been around for a while - it was in the predecessor for the Abram’s and Leo2 back when the Germans and Americans had a JV working on the MBT-70 concept. However it was notably dropped from both separate designs when the teams split.

I know some European tanks have used them - but there has always been questions about combat durability with the hydraulic setup for them and movement when the rear is raise to give extra gun depression in a hull/turret down situation.

That said, I cannot see the double trunnion system being light if it’s going to be robust.
When combined with the auto loader - one has to wonder if they are some specific loading positions it needs to be in.
Only way i can see that being light ish is using expensive materials like Titanium composites.
 
In other news, C Sqn RCD won the Canadian Army Trophy (CAT) tank gunnery competition conducted in Latvia last month. There were teams from seven nations participating. This was the first time in 33 years that the CAT was conducted. A team from the UK came second, while a team from Italy came third.

Congrats to the Sqn and the team!
 
In other news, C Sqn RCD won the Canadian Army Trophy (CAT) tank gunnery competition conducted in Latvia last month. There were teams from seven nations participating. This was the first time in 33 years that the CAT was conducted. A team from the UK came second, while a team from Italy came third.

Congrats to the Sqn and the team!
Well done!!
 
Only way i can see that being light ish is using expensive materials like Titanium composites.
Which tends to limit the robustness as well...

I love Ti for many things, I also wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole for others.
 
In other news, C Sqn RCD won the Canadian Army Trophy (CAT) tank gunnery competition conducted in Latvia last month. There were teams from seven nations participating. This was the first time in 33 years that the CAT was conducted. A team from the UK came second, while a team from Italy came third.

Congrats to the Sqn and the team!

Audax et Celer!
Bold and Swift!
 
Only way i can see that being light ish is using expensive materials like Titanium composites.
Well considering there are no people in the turret the turret can be smaller, thus less volume required for wrapping armour around it and, I suspect less armour needed as there are no squishy people to protect in the turret.

The War Zone article points to it being 60 tons vice 72 tons so its not light its just 12 tons lighter.
 
The War Zone has a long article on the new Leopard variant"

This

KNDS has said that existing Leopard 2 variants can be brought up to the new A-RC 3.0 standard, which could be an attractive option for current operators of the type depending on the exact cost and complexity of that conversion.

One question on the 30mm anti-drone capability - where's the radar??

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