Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ

[dapaterson]

If you think a warship is offensive, you've never met a NWO...

 

[FSTO]

If you think a warship is offensive, you've never met a NWO...

Good thing I don't call myself that!

 

[MTShaw]

Sorry about my previous quote and the past some other ones. I have aphasia and words come out not as planned. I can read it 10 minutes and it still looks normal. So I apologize in advanced for unintentionally jerk-ish.

The Monkey one I regret still.

 

[Kirkhill]

Sorry about my previous quote and the past some other ones. I have aphasia and words come out not as planned. I can read it 10 minutes and it still looks normal. So I apologize in advanced for unintentionally jerk-ish.

The Monkey one I regret still.

I have no excuse!

 

[suffolkowner]

A short comment mostly on the VLS of the CSC in comparison to a select group, basically 32 or even 34 isnt too bad

Some Comments on CSC Armaments & Aussie Comparisons – Canadian Naval Review

By Timothy Choi, 19 November 2021 Earlier this week, my fellow CNR colleague Dr. Dan Middlemiss published some thoughts on a latest report on the Australian Hunter class frigate program and what lessons they may impart for Canada.

www.navalreview.ca

 

[Underway]

Brace yourself for 30 VLS. 24 Mk 41 and 6 ExLs. 30 is still fine from my perspective. Particularly with that sensor suite.

 

[OceanBonfire]

BAE Systems sends UK’s Type 26 frigate design data to Australia to support the construction of the Hunter-class frigates. They're transferring design information, drawings, data, videos, diagrams and tools to a team of engineers at Osborne to establish a new design capability for the warships in Australia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1462969160888160257

Complex warship design capability boost for Australia

More than two million digital artefacts and 90,000 documents are being transferred from the UK’s Type 26 frigate program in Scotland to Adelaide’s Osborne Naval Shipyard for the construction of the Hunter class frigate, the Royal Australian Navy’s next generation of anti-submarine warships.

www.baesystems.com

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Brace yourself for 30 VLS. 24 Mk 41 and 6 ExLs. 30 is still fine from my perspective. Particularly with that sensor suite.

I ask myself if we have the budget to fill all the cells and have reloads?

 

[MTShaw]

I ask myself if we have the budget to fill all the cells and have reloads?

200 SM-2 IIIc is a good start. Also the Sea Ceptor order for an undisclosed amount. We’ll get there. Sigh.

One thing I will commend the grits for is making a plan and sticking to it. We might not agree with their priorities but there we go.

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[Czech_pivo]

BAE Systems sends UK’s Type 26 frigate design data to Australia to support the construction of the Hunter-class frigates. They're transferring design information, drawings, data, videos, diagrams and tools to a team of engineers at Osborne to establish a new design capability for the warships in Australia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1462969160888160257

Complex warship design capability boost for Australia

More than two million digital artefacts and 90,000 documents are being transferred from the UK’s Type 26 frigate program in Scotland to Adelaide’s Osborne Naval Shipyard for the construction of the Hunter class frigate, the Royal Australian Navy’s next generation of anti-submarine warships.

www.baesystems.com

Have to wonder if we'll be offered this as well. The Ozzie's are getting reacquainted with the Motherland quite nicely recently whereas we are quickly going down the path of being that kid that is picked last to be on a team in gym class.

 

[quadrapiper]

I ask myself if we have the budget to fill all the cells and have reloads?

Would assume this is a "steel is cheap, air's cheaper" sort of thing: better to build and wire the "box," even if it's going to sit empty most of the time.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

it is also a really, really bad idea to buy all of your missiles in one lot number.

It is better to spread the buy over a number of years so that they do not TX all at once.

 

[Stoker]

It’s like Lockheed and the Navy are having an argument about how many vls cells we should have.
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Thats pretty dated and the data I saw

Have to wonder if we'll be offered this as well. The Ozzie's are getting reacquainted with the Motherland quite nicely recently whereas we are quickly going down the path of being that kid that is picked last to be on a team in gym class.

BAE transfers warship design data to Australia

BAE is in the process of transferring two million digital artefacts and 90,000 documents about the UK’s Type 26 frigate to their Australian offering to support the construction of the Hunter Class f

www.defenceconnect.com.au

 

[Underway]

Have to wonder if we'll be offered this as well. The Ozzie's are getting reacquainted with the Motherland quite nicely recently whereas we are quickly going down the path of being that kid that is picked last to be on a team in gym class.

How do you know the data hasn't already been transferred? It's not like our project offices are full of people who talk to the media, unlike apparently the Australian ones.

Design transfers have quite a bit to do with manufacturing and construction. Australia needs to toolup and reinvigorate their shipyard. Ours is already going full tilt.

Its a nice story but I wouldn't read to much into it.

 

[Czech_pivo]

How do you know the data hasn't already been transferred? It's not like our project offices are full of people who talk to the media, unlike apparently the Australian ones.

Design transfers have quite a bit to do with manufacturing and construction. Australia needs to toolup and reinvigorate their shipyard. Ours is already going full tilt.

Its a nice story but I wouldn't read to much into it.

I always enjoy hearing your opinion or side of the story, brings a good balance.

 

[AirDet]

A short comment mostly on the VLS of the CSC in comparison to a select group, basically 32 or even 34 isnt too bad

Some Comments on CSC Armaments & Aussie Comparisons – Canadian Naval Review

By Timothy Choi, 19 November 2021 Earlier this week, my fellow CNR colleague Dr. Dan Middlemiss published some thoughts on a latest report on the Australian Hunter class frigate program and what lessons they may impart for Canada.

www.navalreview.ca

When I read the reference material in the above story it mentioned "the Medium Patrol Vessels". This is the first I've heard of this. are they referring to the MCDV replacement?

 

[Underway]

Coast guard build?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Coast guard build?

No mention at all. I'm sticking with my belief that they don't get built (at least by Irving, lol). The stated timelines don't allow for it.

 

[Kirkhill]

for each of the following programs, the AOPS program, the Off-shore Oceanographic Science Vessel, the Off-Shore Science Fisheries Vessels, the Canadian Surface Combatants, the Polar Icebreaker, the Program Icebreakers, and the Medium Patrol Vessels,

I think Mr. Blaney (Bellechasse-Les Etchemins-Lévis) may have misconstrued MPV, the ships allocated to Seaspan for the Coast Guard. MPV does not stand for Medium Patrol Vessel. It stands for Multi-Purpose Vessel. Seaspan will be building up to 16 of them.

Building Ships - Seaspan

nss.seaspan.com

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Those will replace the 1100 class icebreaker/buoytenders