• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

CF seeking 3 or 4 manned fixed-wing ISR planes

tomahawk6

Army.ca Legend
Reaction score
61
Points
530
The Army has its own fleet of ISR aircraft. No need to rely on the USAF for support.

https://www.army.mil/article/137612/army_fixed_wing_aircraft

https://www.janes.com/article/85670/us-army-seeks-high-altitude-isr-aircraft

Bombardier Global 6000 seems to be a potential winner.
 

Good2Golf

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Mentor
Reaction score
3,375
Points
1,260
tomahawk6 said:
The Army has its own fleet of ISR aircraft. No need to rely on the USAF for support.

Was thinking more the difference between the EMARSS and Java Man MC-12 variants, not US DoD end user.  That said, 6000 for US Army would be a sweet rig. :nod:
 

Zoomie

Army.ca Veteran
Mentor
Reaction score
121
Points
680
dapaterson said:
To be clear, I wasn't suggesting they would or they should; only pointing out that it will be the same airframe (though likely employed somewhat differently...)
Ack - the decision makers involved in this project had a very “fling-wing ” influence and thus made their calls as their experience deemed it.  Not a very attractive platform or mission from the AM community, it will have its own challenges WRT manning IMHO.
 

Good2Golf

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Mentor
Reaction score
3,375
Points
1,260
Ditch said:
Ack - the decision makers involved in this project had a very “fling-wing ” influence and thus made their calls as their experience deemed it.  Not a very attractive platform or mission from the AM community, it will have its own challenges WRT manning IMHO.

Non-hermetically shielded lav...  :nod:
 

Eye In The Sky

Army.ca Fixture
Reaction score
544
Points
940
Good2Golf said:
...or a detachment of 427.  It depends on whether the RCAF wants to chop another squadron OPCOM to CANSOF.

Regards
G2G

I'm not 100% plugged in on this one, but I'd put 5 bucks on a flight that falls under 427 SOAS.  Not that weird of an idea, really.  413 has seized and rotary wing airframes, 442, etc.  427 already lives/breathes SOF.  Makes sense to me...
 

SupersonicMax

Army.ca Veteran
Mentor
Reaction score
691
Points
1,010
Fred Herriot said:
Well, it's a start.  Most likely, 434 Squadron will get the aircraft.

434 has exactly 0 aircraft on its UE and fall under the RCAF.  Why would they maintain and operate a SOF aircraft, and have to set up the overhead a flying squadron has (Int, Ops, Standards, Training, Plans)?
 

Gorgo

Full Member
Reaction score
17
Points
230
Reason why I suggested 434 OE&T Squadron is that it responds to the CF Aerospace Warfare Centre.  414 EWS Squadron also falls under the CFAWC, so it made sense to me that a new and unique combat ability would go to this group and not say 427 SOA Squadron.

Or even better, reform 428 "Ghost" Squadron as a separate ISR unit.  Given it hasn't been seen on the RCAF ORBAT for quite some time...
 

dimsum

Army.ca Fixture
Mentor
Reaction score
1,815
Points
1,040
Fred Herriot said:
Or even better, reform 428 "Ghost" Squadron as a separate ISR unit.  Given it hasn't been seen on the RCAF ORBAT for quite some time...

...and fold the RPAS into it as well when it's stood up.  Manned and Unmanned ISR/strike platforms together in one unit  ;)
 

dapaterson

Army.ca Relic
Subscriber
Donor
Reaction score
3,133
Points
990
Dimsum said:
...and fold the RPAS into it as well when it's stood up.  Manned and Unmanned ISR/strike platforms together in one unit  ;)

What, we're gonna stick the Auroras in there as well?  :nana:
 

Zoomie

Army.ca Veteran
Mentor
Reaction score
121
Points
680
dapaterson said:
What, we're gonna stick the Auroras in there as well?  :nana:
Plus the CC-295, since CJOC has already declared it as an ISR asset.
 

Good2Golf

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Mentor
Reaction score
3,375
Points
1,260
Ditch said:
Plus the CC-295, since CJOC has already declared it as an ISR asset.

They probably have the 147F on that list as well, what with both the 295 and the 147 (and 146) working with that crazy new (to 1990s) digital imaging technology. :nod:
 
Top