Extreamely disapointed in the Canadian Forces

[twilight_girl]

I have not painted everyone with the same brush, as I keep being accused of. All I am stating is that I expected more of some of its members and I am strongly disapointed in their behaviour. I worry that their behaviour may be the prominant one in the CF and I want to encourage those of you serving to look at your actions and ensure you behave rightously.

 

[chris_log]

No. I am referring to a specific incident that happened today to someone I know. I was merely discussing the more media exposed cases so as to give a general example of the attitude that bothers me.

Isn't the point of such stringent testing and training to weed out the "drug users, pedophiles, rapists, thieves, racists etc etc etc."?

So, you're ranting that the entire CF is unethical and immoral because of an incident (of which we know nothing) that happened to ONE person? That's hardly fair.

As to your point about testing and training, it's not hard to slip through. Heck, I could be sitting here browsing stormfront.org in a window beside army.ca and the CF wouldn't be the wiser. It's not hard to live a double life outside of the CF.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I have not painted everyone with the same brush, as I keep being accused of. All I am stating is that I expected more of some of its members and I am strongly disapointed in their behaviour. I worry that their behaviour may be the prominant one in the CF and I want to encourage those of you serving to look at your actions and ensure you behave rightously.

You can be assured, that attitude IS NOT the prominent one. You can rest easy now, we appreciate your concern.

 

[Kat Stevens]

If you knew the first thing about the forces, you'd know that, after that Somalia fallout, if anything we became too transparent.  That's why you get to see those reports in the first place.  What do you suggest, every recruit gets shot up with sodium pentathol and given a battery of "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" questions? 

 

[George Wallace]

I........... If a single person had acted without ethics today, I would agree that it was an isolated case. But a large number of them did. It seems to be a widespread problem.

Could I ask what you define as a "Large Number"?

How large do you think the CF is?

I hesitate to ask what percentages you think you are talking about, in the CF and in the Canadian population?

 

[twilight_girl]

I don't think you really have much to go on here, besides being sensationalistic.

How can you say I don't have much to go one? I know the situation, and I strongly feel that is was handled with poor ethics. Very poor ethics. This isn't something I read. This is a specific incident, the details of which I am fully aware. That is what I am going on.

 

[bradlupa]

If i may when was the time before that you heard something bad about the CF first hand and compare that to the corruption in the civvy police force that protects you..Now were do you see more problems

 

[Teflon]

I have not painted everyone with the same brush, as I keep being accused of. All I am stating is that I expected more of some of its members and I am strongly disapointed in their behaviour. I worry that their behaviour may be the prominant one in the CF and I want to encourage those of you serving to look at your actions and ensure you behave rightously.

Well you did name the topic "Extreamely disapointed in the Canadian Forces" not "strongly disappointed in certain individuals behavior"

CF would be an extremely wide brush

 

[HollywoodHitman]

I hate to say this....

But without specifics, you're just making noise. State your issue and present some solutions (like the CF ethics program) that aren't already in play, and some of the thoughtful people on here will have a chance to wade in and offer some opinions.

Otherwise, all I am seeing is an excuse to be 'disappointed' with almost 80,000 people that serve in the CF both Reg, Res and Civ.

Not cool.

 

[Teflon]

If i may when was the time before that you heard something bad about the CF first hand and compare that to the corruption in the civvy police force that protects you..Now were do you see more problems

First hand knowledge of this corruption in the civy police force?

 

[twilight_girl]

I seem to have misspoken. I did not mean a large number in reference to the entire CF. I meant a large number is reference to percentage wise of all those who are involved.

And bradlupa, I don't like to see corruption or poor ethics in any who is entrusted to protect me. Pointing out problems in other areas does not lessen the problems here.

Teflon, true. But as I said, it seems that this is the prominant behaviour that the CF encourages. The actions of the members reflect on the whole. I am disapointed in the CF. I am not disapointed in all those who serve the CF. I am disapointed in some who serve the CF. I hope that clears things up.

Hollywoodhitman, I have stated my issue. Lack of ethics. I presented a solution. Think more carefully about your behaviour. That is all I wanted to achieve from my post.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

How can you say I don't have much to go one? I know the situation, and I strongly feel that is was handled with poor ethics. Very poor ethics. This isn't something I read. This is a specific incident, the details of which I am fully aware. That is what I am going on.

And you think, because of that one instance we're all knuckle dragging morons? Good night to you. Casting such wide dispersions is, in itself, unethical. Please berate yourself. Good night to you. As long as I operate within the bounds of a civilized society and maintain the higher standards expected of a soldier, I will not be moralized too by someone that can't, or won't focus on the bigger picture.

I'm outta here

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

How can you say I don't have much to go one? I know the situation, and I strongly feel that is was handled with poor ethics. Very poor ethics. This isn't something I read. This is a specific incident, the details of which I am fully aware. That is what I am going on.

YOU are not FULLY aware unless you were there.......so were you?

 

[Sub_Guy]

How can you say I don't have much to go one? I know the situation, and I strongly feel that is was handled with poor ethics. Very poor ethics. This isn't something I read. This is a specific incident, the details of which I am fully aware. That is what I am going on.

There are always two sides to the story.  Always. 

I doubt you know all the details, and this thread is giving me a headache.

 

[Fusaki]

I seem to have misspoken. I did not mean a large number in reference to the entire CF. I meant a large number is reference to percentage wise of all those who are involved.

And bradlupa, I don't like to see corruption or poor ethics in any who is entrusted to protect me. Pointing out problems in other areas does not lessen the problems here.

Teflon, true. But as I said, it seems that this is the prominant behaviour that the CF encourages. The actions of the members reflect on the whole. I am disapointed in the CF. I am not disapointed in all those who serve the CF. I am disapointed in some who serve the CF. I hope that clears things up.

Hollywoodhitman, I have stated my issue. Lack of ethics. I presented a solution. Think more carefully about your behaviour. That is all I wanted to achieve from my post.

Well, just so you know, I'm very disappointed in you too. :tsktsk:

But I'm not going to tell you why...

 

[Michael OLeary]

I have stated my issue. Lack of ethics. I presented a solution. Think more carefully about your behaviour. That is all I wanted to achieve from my post.

And with that, there is little reason for this one to continue.

Locked.

Milnet.ca Staff