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Grievance petition

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Petition to the House of Commons in Parliament assembled​

Whereas:
  • The military grievance process's key aspect is its ability to resolve complaints effectively and efficiently;
  • Present circumstances allow the Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) unlimited time to solve a grievance;
  • This lapse in the regulation can cause unjust delays, leaving the grievance carriers in prolonged distress and uncertainty;
  • Instituting a one-year time cap on grievance resolution by the CDS would ensure a swifter resolution for those affected, encouraging accountability and efficient service within the Defence department;
  • According to statistics from the Canadian Armed Forces Ombudsman 2017-18 annual report, grievance investigations lasted an average of 1924 days, or more than five years; and
  • This is a glaring indication that there is a need for change in this aspect of our armed services (source: Annual Report 2017-2018, Canadian Armed Forces Ombudsman).
We, the undersigned, Canadian citizens in support of members of the Canadian Armed Forces, call upon the House of Commons in Parliament assembled to amend the current regulation, which allows the Chief of Defence Staff an unlimited time to respond to grievances, to impose a one-year time limit for the CDS to complete a grievance process.


 
I would draw your attention to QR&O 19.10…

Yes, it would probably constitute a forbidden combination if it was a petition created by a group of service members. If it was created and signed by civilians, however, then there should be no issue.

Perhaps @FJAG has an opinion on the legality of service members signing a civilian petition requesting changes to CAF policies, or if this was initiated by a service member reaching out to their MP.
 
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Yes, it would probably constitute a forbidden combination if it was a petition created by a group of service members. If it was created and signed by civilians, however, then there should be no issue.

Perhaps @FJAG has an opinion on the legality of service members signing a civilian petition requesting changes to CAF policies, or if this was initiated by a service member reaching out to their MP.
The QR&O is straightforward in its wording and easy to understand.

Who created the petition is irrelevant. What is relevant is that a) the petition attempts to alter an existing regulation and that b) all those signing are combining to advocate that change through the joint petition.

How many civilians sign it are signing it is irrelevant as well. One could argue that if only one member signed the petition then that member would not be in contravention of the QR&O. IMHO, however, the moment a second (or more) member signs then they are both (all) in contravention of QR&O 19.10b.

There is a deeper question, however, which is whether QR&O is in contravention of Section 2(d) of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "freedom of association," or whether it is a "reasonable limit prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."

I won't do a legal analysis or offer a legal opinion as I've stopped practicing law some 16 years ago. But I'll offer a gut reaction. I think the QR&O is overbroad.

Overbreadth analysis looks at the means chosen by the state in relation to its purpose. A court must consider whether those means are necessary to achieve the state objective. If the state, in pursuing a legitimate objective, uses means which are broader than is necessary to accomplish that objective, the principles of fundamental justice will be violated because the individual's rights will have been limited for no reason. The effect of overbreadth is that in some applications the law is arbitrary or disproportionate. - R v Heywood [1994] 3 SCR 761

Note that this QR&O goes far beyond the mutiny service offences in ss 79-81 of the NDA which, IMHO, are perfectly valid under the Charter.

The QR&O on the other hand goes much further and is aimed at restraining the exact right that s2(d) of the Charter grants to all citizens. The QR&O does not describe what state objective the QR&O is designed to achieve which would make its broad wording a proper "reasonable limit" that the Charter might permit. I can speculate why the QR&O is there but that would merely set up a number of strawman arguments. I won't attempt to do that.

All that said, a member signing the petition would be at risk of being charged with a breach of the QR&O and then would have to mount a significant legal challenge at any trial. A member would need to determine if this is the hill they are prepared to fight for.

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The question of Combinations Prohibited inevitably spills into the question of collective bargaining for the CAF...
 
The question of Combinations Prohibited inevitably spills into the question of collective bargaining for the CAF...
That's generally the context it appears in when dealing with employer/employee issues. Obviously the concept of a petition re grievances in a CAF context and an attempt to change an employer policy in a normal union context are different. One can only push the analogy so far. OTOH . . . Charter.

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It’s also interesting to me that the prohibition on collective bargaining/unions for the CAF is held within QR&O and is not written into the National Defence Act, while the previous prohibition on unions for the RCMP was established in law (the Public Service Labour Relations Act). Policy tends to be easier to change than law.
 
It’s also interesting to me that the prohibition on collective bargaining/unions for the CAF is held within QR&O and is not written into the National Defence Act, while the previous prohibition on unions for the RCMP was established in law (the Public Service Labour Relations Act). Policy tends to be easier to change than law.
So you are saying, if someone were to get a punishment posting to a policy shop updating CFAOs to DAODs and general policy, and they somehow got that QR&O canceled (or just the relevant section), we'd be allowed to unionize?

That would be a pretty hilarious chain of events by someone playing the long game.
 
So you are saying, if someone were to get a punishment posting to a policy shop updating CFAOs to DAODs and general policy, and they somehow got that QR&O canceled (or just the relevant section), we'd be allowed to unionize?

That would be a pretty hilarious chain of events by someone playing the long game.

CFAOs and DAODs are internal policy documents. QR&Os are Regulations issued by the Governor in Council, by the Treasury Board and by the Minister, based on statutory authorities granting them permission to make such regulations; and Orders issued by the CDS.

The amendment processes for Policies vs Regulations is significantly more arduous; the CDS can't just wake up one morning, decide to abolish a GiC QR&O, and have it done in time for lunch.

... and since QR&Os are viewed as internal to the CAF, they are generally exempt from pre-publication and thus are faster than most other Government of Canada regulations...

 
So you are saying, if someone were to get a punishment posting to a policy shop updating CFAOs to DAODs and general policy, and they somehow got that QR&O canceled (or just the relevant section), we'd be allowed to unionize?

That would be a pretty hilarious chain of events by someone playing the long game.
So. Potentially yes; nothing would stop CAF member from forming a combination to advocate on their behalf.

However, there would also be no legal mechanism applicable by which a group of employees could empower a bargaining agent to actually bring CAF/TBS into force al collective bargaining. There needs to be a lack of prohibition, yes, but there also needs to be an applicable legally prescribed labour relations regime describing how a bargaining agents is to be certified and serve notice to bargain, and who’s to be included or excluded. The Mounties got FPSLRA amended to bolt in a new part of that Act that basically applied a modified version of the existing federal public sector labour relations regime to a defined category of RCMP employees who could be represented in a new union just for them.

A hypothetical CAF bargaining agents would need something like that. I don’t know what could be done in a hypothetical legal vacuum, given that other existing CAF laws and regulations would preclude any job action that, in a civilian employer, could force the issue.
 
There's also this gem from the Criminal Code:

"Inciting to mutiny

53 Every one who
  • (a) attempts, for a traitorous or mutinous purpose, to seduce a member of the Canadian Forces from his duty and allegiance to Her Majesty, or
  • (b) attempts to incite or to induce a member of the Canadian Forces to commit a traitorous or mutinous act,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
  • R.S., c. C-34, s. 53"
 
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