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Hamas invaded Israel 2023

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This from a reporter who's been there, done that. An excerpt ...
... The Hamas leaders and spokesmen who agreed to our interviews were rarely what you would expect of representatives of a terrorist organization. They were men who were fluent in English, logical-sounding about their grievances and highly educated to boot, usually in engineering or medicine. They portrayed themselves as part of a “political wing” of Hamas, one that was unaware of what was being planned by the more secretive military wing. Often, these spokesman insisted, they had no idea that an attack was imminent.

By and large, we reporters ate it up. Our editors wanted us to have access to this shadowy group and to explain its lure for average Palestinians — and in particular, the strategic challenge it presented to Arafat. By claiming that the organization’s left hand didn’t know what the right hand was doing, Hamas made it easy for themselves to evade tough questions — like, why target civilians rather than military targets? — and convenient for so many of us to feel like we were putting our fingers on the Palestinian pulse rather than sitting down for tea with terrorists.

So we sipped their bitter brews, and they talked a good game. “Look, we take no joy in seeing Israeli civilians get blown up,” one spokesman told me — back in the day when Hamas’ worst weapon was a suicide bomber in an urban area — before going on to insist that these attacks were the only rational answer to what they saw as the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands. When I asked why Hamas wouldn’t take a crack at negotiations instead, they responded that there was no point in talking to Israel — and Israel wasn’t exactly jumping to talk to Hamas either. The spokesman insisted I not use his name with that almost-empathetic quote about not taking joy in killing Israelis. In retrospect, I wonder if he said it because he knew it sounded good to the Western ear.

Hamas played other games with language, presenting themselves as reasonable by saying that its leaders would in theory agree to a long-term hudna, or truce, with Israel. Their words sound nice — who wouldn’t chose a lasting truce over the horrific killing and destruction we are now witnessing? — but the reality was that Hamas would never ink a permanent deal with Israel because, their leaders told me, Islam forbade it ...
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A bit more ...
... Hamas also played fast and loose with facts they gave us reporters. During the first major Israel-Hamas war in 2008 to 2009, known as Operation Cast Lead, Hamas said that fewer than 50 of the 1,400 dead in Gaza had been combatants. But more than a year later, Hamas’ interior minister acknowledged in an interview with the London-based Al-Hayat newspaper that between 600 and 700 of its militants were killed in that war. In that and in almost every war since, Hamas or other militant groups in Gaza launched rockets that fell unintentionally on their own citizens, but rarely if ever, owned up to the error, instead blaming Israel for the deaths ...
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... The Hamas leaders and spokesmen who agreed to our interviews were rarely what you would expect of representatives of a terrorist organization. They were men who were fluent in English, logical-sounding about their grievances and highly educated to boot, usually in engineering or medicine. They portrayed themselves as part of a “political wing” of Hamas, one that was unaware of what was being planned by the more secretive military wing. Often, these spokesman insisted, they had no idea that an attack was imminent.
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1704132971380.png They spoke the same words in Ireland.
 
brihard said:
That video’s at most a couple hours old. It’s quite premature to say anything ‘gets a pass’ when it comes to launching balloons into a flight path.
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AGREED 100% with this provision - whoever is arrested, charged and found guilty should spend a few years in GP with some redneck Americans. If they survive ....maybe that will reform them.
 
OldSolduer said:
AGREED 100% with this provision - whoever is arrested, charged and found guilty should spend a few years in GP with some redneck Americans. If they survive ....maybe that will reform them.
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If suspects can be identified and charged, absolutely smoke them with the full weight of the law. This was insanely reckless.
 
brihard said:
That video’s at most a couple hours old. It’s quite premature to say anything ‘gets a pass’ when it comes to launching balloons into a flight path.
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Meanwhile, China....

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CNN is reporting the death of a senior Hamas leader in a Beirut airstrike:

Senior Hamas figure killed in attack in southern Beirut​

From Abeer Salman and Tamara Qiblawi

Hamas has announced that one of the victims of an attack in southern Beirut in Lebanon on Tuesday night was a senior official, Saleh Al Arouri.
Hamas media outlet Al Aqsa TV said that the “Deputy Head of the Political Bureau of Hamas, the martyr leader Saleh Al Arouri, was martyred in a treacherous Zionist airstrike in Beirut.”
Al Arouri was considered one of the founding members of the group's military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, and was based in Beirut.
The Israeli army demolished Al Arouri’s house in the occupied West Bank town of Aroura in October.
At the time, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) stated that forces “operated in the town” overnight to “demolish the residence of Saleh al-Arouri, deputy head of the Hamas terrorist organization’s political bureau and in charge of the Hamas’ activities in Judea and Samaria.”
Former Israeli envoy to United Nations Danny Danon congratulated the Israeli security and intelligence agencies for the assassination of a senior Hamas figure.
“I congratulate the IDF, the Shin Bet, the Mossad and the security forces for killing senior Hamas official Salah al-Aaruri [sp] in Beirut,” Danon said on X. “Anyone who was involved in the 7/10 massacre should know that we will reach out to them and close an account with them,” Danon added.
CNN has reached out to the IDF for further comment.
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