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I think he was referring to the USAbut that is giving Hamas status as a legitimate government. I prefer to call it kidnapping and murder.
I think he was referring to the USAbut that is giving Hamas status as a legitimate government. I prefer to call it kidnapping and murder.
but that is giving Hamas status as a legitimate government. I prefer to call it kidnapping and murder.
My understanding as well. Until Gaza Palestinians ‘vote’ for someone other than Hamas, it’s Gaza’s representation (but to be clear, not Palestinians in the West Bank or Golan or Lebanon).I thought Palestinians elected Hamas as their governing body... so are they not legitimate?
I guess the question is who counted the votes…I thought Palestinians elected Hamas as their governing body... so are they not legitimate?
There is no such thing as electoral fraud anywhere anytime.... just kidding.... the little bit of fraud didn't change the outcome.I guess the question is who counted the votes…
wouldn't that make the Oct 7 events simply an act of war and no different than Russia's numerous actions in Ukraine. Regardless, I think that I will stick with calling them murderers.My understanding as well. Until Gaza Palestinians ‘vote’ for someone other than Hamas, it’s Gaza’s representation (but to be clear, not Palestinians in the West Bank or Golan or Lebanon).
That’s not an unreasonable practical understanding. TBH, not sure how the LOAC would treat Hamas and taking/killing of hostages….and of course, breaking the 2005 ceasefire on 7 Oct…wouldn't that make the Oct 7 events simply an act of war and no different than Russia's numerous actions in Ukraine. Regardless, I think that I will stick with calling them murderers.
You don’t need to be a legitimate government to be a party to a war crime. Israel/Gaza is a recognized non-international armed conflict, and Hamas is a combatant. Alleging, charging, or prosecuting crimes against humanity or war crimes by a group doesn’t mean they’re recognized as a legitimate governmental entity.but that is giving Hamas status as a legitimate government. I prefer to call it kidnapping and murder.
War crimes make someone a legitimate government? How?but that is giving Hamas status as a legitimate government. I prefer to call it kidnapping and murder.
I don't quite know how to respond to the US taking this on. Were there US Citizens kidnapped and murdered? Dual Israeli US?And while everyone's watching the election antics (also archived here) ....
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Justice Department Announces Terrorism Charges Against Senior Leaders of Hamas
The Justice Department announced today the unsealing of terrorism, murder conspiracy, and sanctions-evasion charges against six senior leaders of Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization. The charges relate to the defendants’ central roles in planning, supporting, and perpetrating the...www.justice.gov
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US charges Hamas leader, other militants in connection with Oct. 7 massacre in Israel
The Justice Department has announced criminal charges against Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar and other militants in connection with the Oct. 7 rampage in Israel.apnews.com
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US charges Hamas leaders over October 7, Gaza mediation role under question
Six defendants, three of whom have been killed in Israeli attacks, named in US case against Hamas officials.www.aljazeera.com
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Hamas leaders charged by US over deadly 7 October attacks on Israel
Yahya Sinwar and at least five others accused by US justice department of planning and orchestrating the deadly attacks in which 1,200 people were killedwww.theguardian.com
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US dismisses concerns indictment of Hamas leaders will complicate cease-fire talks
The United States on Wednesday dismissed concerns that criminal charges brought against Hamas leaders in connection with the October 7 attack in Israel would complicate talks on a Gaza cease-fire in return for the release of Hamas' hostages. VOA White House Bureau Chief Patsy Widakuswara reports.www.voanews.com
Not really what I was getting at.There is no such thing as electoral fraud anywhere anytime.... just kidding.... the little bit of fraud didn't change the outcome.