Is this enough?

[donkon]

I was wondering if this is enough of things i can do to easily pass basic and get into infantry. I havent applied yet but my future plans are to become a jtf2 operative or etf or those rescue guys, forget the name. They fly in the chopper and rescue people. Anyway these are my current standings:

I havent applied for the army yet but i am planning to do it in June after i finish a course in college.

I am 19
I can do the following:
100 push ups
100 situps
run 6 miles
20 chin ups

I know that jtf2 operatives have to be machines and i aint one yet but...

- Which off these i should work on and what else should i add? thx.

 

[Sundborg]

I think you have what it takes; your physical aspect should not be a problem with you.

I believe the job you are referring to is SAR Tech. That is a trade you get into after you a in the military a few years. It has been one of my options to take further down the road.

 

[AndrewD83]

Quite impressive, I wish I could run six miles all the time.

Although I can usually do between 60 - 70 pushups I am able to do more then 20 chinups (the good, non cheating kind where you go ALL the way down and all the way back up) so maybe you want to work on that a little bit but nothing to worry about.

Just some more advice about pushups. I often find doing 60 pushups time comsuming since I like to do two or three sets of 60 so sometimes I stuff my backpack with books and binders, and wear it while I am doing my pushups. Makes it really difficult and I get twice the work out in half the time. I can really feel it in my muscles the next day instead of doing the usual routine.

I got this idea from a picture of a girl in the CF who had to do pushups with her 160 lbs. bag on.

Good luck

 

[Rafe]

So you might do alright in PT...but thats not all the physical work you go through. Did ya ever think of the mental aspect of things, not everything in the army is physical. :soldier:

 

[donkon]

andrew thx for the tip. I will start doing the backpack thing.

To Recce:

I think i got what it takes mentally because i grew up with my father and hes crazy strict and aggresive and also i‘ve grew up in a **** neighborhood in scarborough. I‘ve been through so much **** but i never broke down. Im not worried about the mental part.

 

[GrahamD]

I think i got what it takes mentally because i grew up with my father and hes crazy strict and aggresive and also i‘ve grew up in a **** neighborhood in scarborough. I‘ve been through so much **** but i never broke down. Im not worried about the mental part.

Maybe what you need is a little bit of a reality check. Growing up in a bad neighborhood has nothing to do with preparing you for the mental stresses that the military is going to offer you. Not to mention that Scarborough is hardly a bad area to grow up, if that is the worst stress you have ever had to deal with, then get ready for a shocker when you enlist.

 

[donkon]

Ok i wasnt asking in my post about the mental part but i think if you can pass basic and whatever other tests in the army easier the mental part will be easier for you. Failure or feeling as a failed person would destroy you mentaly. They both work togather. The fact that you can compare my father to those drill instructors in boot camps that are in the marines i thought i would be able to manage that part of the army. Also i was asking about the physical so can we please stay to the topic. Yeah the neighnorhood part i shouldnt mention. Anyway i really appreciate your replies. Can anyone else tell me some good excersises they know and what should i do?

Thanks.

 

[Agent-Orange]

Forget everything in your past or where you come from it has no bearing for the military. You may pass basic or QL3... but can u make it to year 3? You‘re doing a great job keeping physically fit... if you‘re interested in becoming a SAR Tech look at taking a life guard course and get very comfortable with water, watch those belly flops mate! You still have a couple of years to even be considered, if im not mistaken you need minimum 4 years and Cpl hooks to be even looked at. All the advice I can give to you is train harder, "Run Forrest Run" good-luck to you guy

 

[donkon]

Yeah i am actually training to the navy seal standards. I swim every day and can swim 20 meters under water non stop but my goal is 50. I need to work on swimming. Thx for tip

 

[donkon]

I have a two questions about the physical test:

1) Is the push up and chin-up test timed or you can do as much as you can in any given time?

2) Do they want you to do the chin ups where your palm of your hand is faceing out with wide grip? Thats the ones i am doing now or are do they want the regular pull ups where your palms are turn toward your face?

 

[Bert]

If you‘re referring to the fitness test during the application process, then follow this link for more info: http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/html/careers/getting_ready/fitn_guid.html

Chin-ups are not tested during the fitness test.
If you do chin-ups, its only specifies palms facing you. I‘d train for both narrow and normal spacing.
You can do as many push-ups as you can within 60 seconds as long as they are consecutive. My
Tester said within 60 secs but I‘m not sure if there really is a set time limit for psuh-ups.

For the fitness test, they‘re not looking for the maximum effort but whether you can equal or comfortably surpass the minimum standards. Its just to see if you‘re fit enough for BMQ and not an accurate test to see how fit you are. Likely, the Tester won‘t let you do 100 push-ups
and situps.

Soldier qualification courses, especially infantry, will have higher standards as you progress.

 

[Bert]

Don>

"I think i got what it takes mentally because i grew up with my father and hes crazy strict and aggresive and also i‘ve grew up in a **** neighborhood in scarborough. I‘ve been through so much **** but i never broke down. Im not worried about the mental part."

I don‘t want to give the impression I know what I‘m talking about since I‘m not thru BMQ yet. To add a little to what Recce_Tech pointed out as well as a friend of mine who went thru BMQ, the mental part is more than you think. Maybe others could clarify, add, or correct.

BMQ is about introducing the recruit (Army, Navy, Air Force) to military life, procedures, and develop the basics for success in the military. The soldiering courses and life you seek to attain (infantry-special) are also dealth with in future training and experiences.

Definitely from your description, you‘re physically fit enough to do alot. The mental part seems to be the key to BMQ.

I asked my friend this as he went thru basic. Hes fit, a tae kwown do back belt, and routinely runs 10 km. He say basic is more mental conditioning by the courses provided, the lack of sleep, and working toegther as a unit.

As an example, his unit had to get dressed and get out the door for assembly. A few guys would be out the door significantly sooner and in formation before the rest. The Troop got a smoking.

Another example, during a morning inspection, a guy had lint on his beret and the Troop got a smoking.

Why? I was told it was about teamwork and getting the job done as a Troop. If you‘re done before everyone else and you go away, you leave the Troop to do it alone, the job doesn‘t get done as fast. You weren‘t looking out for the Troop as it was reported.

It was asked by the staff why no one noticed the lint on the recruit‘s beret? Everyone is supposed to look after one another and it was felt that someone should have noticed the lint
and cleaned it off before inspection. The Troop was disciplined together.

Sometimes the staff creates situations to test how well the Troop works together and watches the result. It got me thinking that though the physical part is certainly important in BMQ, the necessity of mental conditioning, attitude, and teamwork is equally important.

 

[donkon]

Thx for your reply Bert. Those two examples you gave me, make me want to go to the army even more. Makes me want to quit school now and join. Anyone else got any interesting info or stories on BMQ?

 

[Ruthless4Life]

You should focus mainly on being a good soldier right now. Having a goal like being in JTF-2 isn‘t a bad thing, but you have to realize the reality.


Theoretically speaking:
You may be good at basketball now, but you have to work on those skills before you can earn a place on a college team, and before you become an NBA player, you have to prove yourself worthy of being one. After you get to the NBA, you still have to work really hard before you become an NBA all-star. Don‘t thinking about yourself being an NBA all-star at the moment. Worry about that when you get into the NBA.

 

[donkon]

Anyone know the jtf2 height requirments? Is there a maximum limit? I am currently 6‘5. I heard the Marines and Seals have height limits.

 

[OLD SCHOOL]

That is tall. I‘m 6‘3". I thought I was on the high side.
You will have trouble doing drill with the C7 as you stand at attention with your hand on the very end of the barrel.
Maybe flood pants around your knees too, very un-ninja.
Most high speeders are shorter but no reason why you can‘t be in any unit.You will just be in the back center of the unit photo!

Keep your goals but just go one day at a time. there is a lot of fun to be had before you can be considered for any ninja assaulter highspeed postings. :warstory: