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Missing my grandfather

wilkencare

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Hello ,

i am writing you because my father is searching for his father. His father was a member of ReginaRifle in WW2. He met my grandmother named Regine Wilken in 1945 in Germany. In April 1946 my father was born. He never met his canadian father. I sent you a copy of his letter to the Butson familymembers in Canada. Until today we don´t have an answer. Can you help me?
Here is the letter:

Dear Madame or dear Sir,


your address I got from canada411. I am writing similar letters to all Butsons available to me because I try to find out anything about C. J. Butson, a member of the Canadian Allied Forces in the end of WW II.

The reason why: I am quite sure that C. J. Butson seems to be my father. Now that I am almost 65 years of age, I want to learn more about my roots – and therefore I am looking for any helping hand and hope to get by that way: I want to learn his whereabouts resp. to get into contact with his family. May even be we are relatives?
To put you into the story: My mother Regine Wilken fell in love with this man and got pregnant in summer 1945.After I was born in April 1946, she got sick seriously, and Canadian soldiers helped the local physician with penicilin they certainly got from an army pharmacy (penicilin was not available to German people then). Thanks to this initiative my mother survived. From “C.” our mother never heard anything, maybe he had to leave Germany instantly.
Well, as you may imagine, there was a lot of trouble water in those times, and therefore this complete matter (“occupation children”) has been under taboo for decades. This continued even after my mother died in 1993.
But recently things have changed as I was given a hand-written notice “C. J. Butson” and the address “P.O.B. 2342, Vancouver W6B 3W5”. My mother`s youngest sister had kept this paper she got from her as a secret. She had promised to remain absolutely silent up to now.
My problem here in Germany: There are only few contemporary witnesses left and it is difficult to make them talk. Nevertheless: By own researches and conclusions we found out that Butson was a Canadian citizen and that his unit should have been the Regina`s Rifles Regiment. As I read in the RRR`s War Diaries of RRR availbale on the internet, RRR 1st Bat. came to Northern Germany in spring 1945. But there was no Butson in the 1st Battailion.

Regarding the timeline of pregnancy, it is explicable that Butson should have been with the 4th: This unit came in summer 1945 and left Germany in early 1946. Unfortunately, the records of the 4th Battailion seem to be incomplete.
The region concerned is Ostfriesland whith the villages of Strackholt (where my mother lived) and Holtrop (where the Canadian Forces seemed to have had a rough-and-ready HQ, close to Strackholt). Holtrop is shown in the diaries mentioned.

One more detail shows that Mr Butson did not leave Germany in, let me say: remorse mood: He handed his P. O. B. address to my mother (P.O.B 2342, Vancouver V6B 3W5). I got this address from my aunt, too. I presume this has been a military postal service address. My letter to this address was returned to sender.
So, this is more or less all we know. It would be great if you could help us with your memory or family talks. It is significant to keep this matter private as long as possible.

Please be sure that I have no financial demands. I am well situated with a bakery on the island of Langeoog in northern Germany, married to my beloved wife, our son has one daughter and one son, so that I try to be a good grand dad, too.


Please, drop me some lines with your answer. If you prefer e-mail you may proceed your message to wilkencare@gmail.com - even in case you cannot help me.


Thank you in advance,
Best regards,
 
Might be a good idea to remove the phone # from the post. Aside from that, good luck and I hope you find what you're looking for!
 
taken from http://www.scugogheritage.com/timelines/1940-1949.htm

April 1946
Pte. Clarence Butson receives Mention in Dispatches for gallant and distinguished service.
 
wilkencare said:
But recently things have changed as I was given a hand-written notice “C. J. Butson” and the address “P.O.B. 2342, Vancouver W6B 3W5”. My mother`s youngest sister had kept this paper she got from her as a secret. She had promised to remain absolutely silent up to now.

. . . . . . .

One more detail shows that Mr Butson did not leave Germany in, let me say: remorse mood: He handed his P. O. B. address to my mother (P.O.B 2342, Vancouver V6B 3W5). I got this address from my aunt, too. I presume this has been a military postal service address. My letter to this address was returned to sender.

There is a discrepancy with the address your father received from his aunt and it may be that it was not provided by a Canadian soldier in the 1940s.  While the postal code of this address "V6B 3W5" is currently correct for a Vancouver location, this six character format was only introduced in the 1970s.  Previous postal codes (if needed for a community with more than a single postal area) ranged from one to three digits.
 
lea said:
taken from http://www.scugogheritage.com/timelines/1940-1949.htm

April 1946
Pte. Clarence Butson receives Mention in Dispatches for gallant and distinguished service.

If the same gentleman, then photo in the background of this site:

http://www.glennperry.co.uk/Clarence_Russell_Butson.html

Also, now deceased:

BUTSON Private Clarence Royal Canadian Army Service Corps WW 2 Port Perry, Ontario 1993  February 1994 

http://28330.vws.magma.ca/en/lastpost/browse.asp?tfm_order=ASC&tfm_orderby=Unit&alpha=B&offset=11750

I am thinking this may be a different Butson however - given the non-match of initials.

22 September 1945.
BUTSON, Clarence Wallace, Private (B.118379) - Mention in Despatches - Service Corps - awarded as per Canada Gazette dated
 
If the same gentleman, then photo in the background of this site:

http://www.glennperry.co.uk/Clarence_Russell_Butson.html

It would be interesting to hear if the photo mentioned shows any family resemblance to the Germany family.

I'm thinking that the Clarence Butson, son of Laurence (Clarence) Russell Butson (1887-1973)(Born in Port Perry, Ontario, Canada),
may be called by the name of Clarence Junior, or CJ  to his friends.

Unless you can find more than one Pte Clarence Butson in WW2 records,
then it could be that Pte Clarence Wallace Butson, (1912-1993)(WW2 B.118379) is the proper name of the missing grandfather.

And would have served with the Royal Canadian Army Service Corps (RCASC)
and not been a member of the Royal Regina Rifles but possibly supported those front line units.

Born in Reach, Ontario North, Ontario, Canada
http://www.camichaelfh.ukfamilies.com/mvow/ind1/ind13308.html
http://www.camichaelfh.ukfamilies.com/mvow/fam/fam13977.html

I would think that checking out some of the genealogy websites for the Butson family of Ontario might yield some more info.
http://search.ancestry.ca/  has some Butson family records.

Getting in contact with some of the Ontario Butson family members yield some info too.

http://www.locatefamily.com/B/Burgess-Hoffman_to_Buss/Butoru_to_Buttrey/Butson/Butson_Clarence_on588555.html


Just a few assumptions have been made..

 
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