Naval Reserves in Afghanistan

[Stoker]

Apparently there are a few in Afghanistan right now, I know of a Bosn and a couple of officers. They are getting a lot of volunteers, but NAVRES is limiting the amount of deployed personnel to 10 pers. Anyone know of anyone gone?

 

[navymich]

There was a solicitation message out in the fall for positions available.  I don't think it was limited to just navres personnel, but I do know that alot of them here on the West Coast applied.  When I am back at work on Tue, I'll see if I can find the message.

Where did you get the info that navres is setting a limit?

 

[Stoker]

There was a solicitation message out in the fall for positions available.  I don't think it was limited to just navres personnel, but I do know that alot of them here on the West Coast applied.  When I am back at work on Tue, I'll see if I can find the message.

Where did you get the info that navres is setting a limit?

They were looking for Log O's, Cooks, RMS, and Supply Techs. The only ATR i'm aware of is drivers. I think some bosns are doing base security. We haven't seen any messages on recruiting for Afghanistan, apparently there are emails going around,but they usually don't make it to the ship. I think this limit is for all deployed operations not just Afghanistan. This was mentioned in Dec in the Career Managers meetings, what they said was you were free to apply,but with the shortages on the ships and ashore right now don't count on it. A friend of mine got the reply from his career manager, and I believe it came from his boss. I am looking into this. I think personally its something put in place by someone at Navres and not policy.

 

[navymich]

I'll definitely look into the message that was circulating around out here.  I know for sure that it was looking for ops types.

Things are very short-handed out here too, both on the ships and ashore, and I can only imagine Navres beating their heads against walls trying to figure out how to handle it all.  I wasn't at any of the CM briefs out here, as I was busy with my transfer.  And even though I have CT'd now, this is all still very interesting to me, so I will definitely be following what goes on with it.

It would be interesting for sure, if Navres decides to make this a policy....

 

[Stoker]

I'll definitely look into the message that was circulating around out here.  I know for sure that it was looking for ops types.

Things are very short-handed out here too, both on the ships and ashore, and I can only imagine Navres beating their heads against walls trying to figure out how to handle it all.  I wasn't at any of the CM briefs out here, as I was busy with my transfer.  And even though I have CT'd now, this is all still very interesting to me, so I will definitely be following what goes on with it.

It would be interesting for sure, if Navres decides to make this a policy....

Actually some people at the recruiting center was told that in the near future that if a person does a component transfer they could be treated as a "new recruit" and be expected to spend up to 2 years in a infantry role before they will be allowed to do trades training.  This was in the news sometime back that it was being looked at that new recruits before they would be accepted into the Navy or Air Force could be expected to spend time as "boots on the ground".
We are so short right now that my shore draft right now is in question because I hold a critical billet. After sailing straight on a MCDV since 95, i'm looking for a rest.
Afghanistan anyone?

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

The component transfers were for those that already were going for Combat Arms, Gen Hillier and Mr O'Connor already released a statment saying this did not apply to Air Force and Navy recruits

 

[Stoker]

The component transfers were for those that already were going for Combat Arms, Gen Hillier and Mr O'Connor already released a statment saying this did not apply to Air Force and Navy recruits

Didn't hear that, but I thats good news for the component transfer people.

 

[Sub_Guy]

I do know for a fact that there are several TFA volunteer solicitation messages out there for MARPAC, the latest one I read was for a LT(N).  There was also one for 3 OS-LS for general duties in Afghanistan. 

The messages usually read like this

"MARPAC has been tasked to provide 3 OS-LS any MOC to perform general duties in Afghanistan"  Then it goes into specifics like dates and such.

Anyway I am sure there are quite a few naval folk running around KAF looking for their 10 soup.......

 

[fear-acfhuinn luinge]

There was a solicitation message out in the fall for positions available.  I don't think it was limited to just navres personnel, but I do know that alot of them here on the West Coast applied.  When I am back at work on Tue, I'll see if I can find the message.

Where did you get the info that navres is setting a limit?

Came out near the end of Nov - I wrote up some messages on some of the volunteers. ATR positions at HQ.

 

[navymich]

Came out near the end of Nov - I wrote up some messages on some of the volunteers. ATR positions at HQ.

Roger, thanks.  I'll look it up next time I'm at work.

 

[navymich]

Here is the msg, plus an amendment to it:

R 242129Z NOV 06
FM MARPACHQ ESQUIMALT
TO AIG 2615
AIG 2616
XMT HMCS OTTAWA
BT
UNCLAS J12 3363
SIC WAA
SUBJ: STAFF CHECK - TASK FORCE AFGHANISTAN ROTO 3 - INTERNATIONAL
SECURITY ASSISTANCE FORCE (ISAF) HQ PART 2
1. MARPAC HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO CONDUCT A STAFF CHECK TO MAN 5 X POSN
(OFFICER/NCM) FOR TASK FORCE AFGHANISTAN ROTO 3 - ISAF HQ PART 2, IN
KABUL BASED UNITS. READ REQR IN COLUMS OF 6:
(POSN TITLE/RANK/MOC/COMPONENT/DATES/REMARKS)
A. ASSESSMENTS-ANALYST/LCDR-MAJ/ANY MOC/REG OR RES FORCE/01 JUN - 15
DEC 075 MAY - 5 NOV 07/CANDIDATE TO ATTEND TRG 5 - 14 FEB IN NORWAY
B. DCOS OPS-THEATRE TRG TEAM-TM LDR/LT(N)-CAPT/MAY BE OVER RANKED TO
LCDR-MAJ/ANY MOC/ REG OR RES FORCE/1 APR - 15 OCT 07/CANDIDATE TO
PAGE 2 RCWEWLA5027 UNCLAS
ATTEND TRG 5 - 14 FEB IN NORWAY
C. SO ESCORT/LT(N)-CAPT/MAY BE OVER RANKED TO LCDR-MAJ/ANY MOC/ REG
OR RES FORCE/1 JUL 07 - 15 JAN 08/-/
D. CMD GRP OPS-JOC/PO2-SGT/MAY BE OVER RANKED TO CPO2-MWO/ANY
MOC/REG OR RES FORCE/1 MAY - 15 NOV 07/3 ENG RECOMMENDATION - CLS
E. CMD GRP OPS-TM JOC/LS-CPL/MAY BE OVER RANKED TO PO2-SGT/ANY
MOC/REG OR RES FORCE/1 APR - 15 OCT 07/CANDIDATE TO ATTEND TRG 5 -
14 FEB IN NORWAY
2. RETURN TO THE UNDERSIGNED NLT 1200 HRS, 1 DEC 06 WITH CO
CONCURRENCE. TASKING WILL BE ASSIGNED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE
BASIS
3. MARPAC POC: SGT MOONEY, J12-2, 3-2796
BT


R 282036Z NOV 06
FM MARPACHQ ESQUIMALT
TO AIG 2615
AIG 2616
XMT HMCS OTTAWA
BT
UNCLAS J12 3366
SIC WAA
SUBJ: STAFF CHECK AMENDMENT TO - TASK FORCE AFGHANISTAN ROTO 3 -
INTERNATIONAL SECURITY ASSISTANCE FORCE (ISAF) HQ PART 2
REF: J12 3363 242129Z NOV 06
1. AMEND PARA 1D OF REF TO READ CONTROLLED MATERIAL DIRECTIVE GROUP
OPS - JOINT OPERATION CENTRE (CMD GRP OPS-JOC)/PO2-SGT/MAY BE OVER
RANKED TO CPO2-MWO/ANY MOC/REG OR RES FORCE/1 MAY - 15 NOV 07/-/
2. AMEND PARA 1E OF REF TO READ CONTROLLED MATERIAL DIRECTIVE GROUP
OPS - TEAM JOINT OPERATION CENTRE (CMD GRP OPS-TM JOC)/LS-CPL/MAY BE
OVER RANKED TO PO2-SGT/ANY MOC/REG OR RES FORCE/1 APR - 15 OCT
07/CANDIDATE TO ATTEND TRG 5 - 14 FEB IN NORWAY
PAGE 2 RCWEWLA5028 UNCLAS
3. REMAINDER OF REF UNCHANGED
BT

 

[Halifax Tar]

I get a kick out this. The Navy has been there for a long time. In base supply (Halifax) right now we have people going on their 2nd tours already. I myself just finished one in August, during which my Sgt was from the left coast ,the Navy isnt there so they say. I guess just goes to prove the thought that the Supply Dept is not considered part of the Navy. Dont even get me started on the soft sea, hard sea crap there sonny jim!  ^-^

As for NavRes personel, I think thats awsome. I was once a Nav Res Sup Tech, and let me tell ya, was I douped into that. I was told I would be sailing and all that stuff... NOPE I get to stay behind while the others go bomb about. Finally some chances for those lads and lassies to be deployed! I hope it comes about.

 

[Journeyman]

ASSESSMENTS-ANALYST...CANDIDATE TO ATTEND TRG 5 - 14 FEB

Nine whole days training?! I think I may have found one gap in our war-winning strategy. 

 

[GO!!!]

Nine whole days training?! I think I may have found one gap in our war-winning strategy. 

Boy do I ever feel dumb! We did 130 days in the field between July and November with courses, new kit, and leave thrown in too, getting ready for deployment, but Navy guys are so good they can do all that in 9 days!

They must be the best men in the CF! ???

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Boy do I ever feel dumb! We did 130 days in the field between July and November with courses, new kit, and leave thrown in too, getting ready for deployment, but Navy guys are so good they can do all that in 9 days!

They must be the best men in the CF! ???

Considering the navy and air force are not there to provide boots on the ground (sometimes  think you forget thats what you signed up for) I think its better that those people that will be the ones putting their lives on the line everyday will be the ones to have the maximum training not the ones who will not use it or need to use it

 

[armyvern]

I get a kick out this. The Navy has been there for a long time.

Absolutely, those FLS boys & girls have been there for quite awhile. They were quite the characters too, IIRC from my time there!!  ;D

 

[Halifax Tar]

I have herd some stories of saliors in dubai! 

I mean actually in KAF and Kabul though

 

[armyvern]

I mean actually in KAF and Kabul though

Well, I know there were a relative few of hard navy guys there (  ); but to have naval and airforce uniform wearing purple tradesmen in-theatre is not unusual to this tour or any other.

 

[GO!!!]

Well, I know there were a relative few of hard navy guys there (  ); but to have naval and airforce uniform wearing purple tradesmen in-theatre is not unusual to this tour or any other.

"hard navy guys"  ;D (tee hee!)

Considering the navy and air force are not there to provide boots on the ground (sometimes  think you forget thats what you signed up for) I think its better that those people that will be the ones putting their lives on the line everyday will be the ones to have the maximum training not the ones who will not use it or need to use it

You make an excellent case for only the cbt arms troops recieving danger pay in theatre - but really - nine days? - I can think of nine days training for deployment right off the top of my head for our CSS - how can this be possible?, especially considering the camp security duties that inevitably befall all soldiers?

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

So what you are saying you don't want support to get the actual combat arms types back in the field because you don't think other elements deserve incentive to go on deployments such as this?