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UberCree

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I am currently teaching outdoor education in the school on my reserve.  We have without a doubt one of the best outdoor ed programs in Canada.  Students when finished the course have First Aid, Wilderness First Aid, Manitoba Hunters Safety Course, Small Boat operators course, Canadian Firearms Safety course, Survival and GPS / Map and compass quals as well as lots of exposure to ecological theory.  Best of all we usually get ducks, geese and a moose, or if that fials we butcher a buffalo at a local ranch to conclude the course.  Lots of hands on.  To let you know how outdoors were are, we do not even have a classroom in the school.

Anyway to get to the point, our program received a grant and we need to buy some gear for our students, most of whom have zero outdoor clothes or kit of any kind. 

Please let me know what you think a program like ours should procure kitwise, as a dream list, listed in priority.

We already bought a satellite phone (we are usually out of cell range).
Already have a number of expedition type first aid kits.


Thanks for the help.  I will not taint your responses by letting you know what I have in mind.  I want to see if I am on the right track.


Sua Sponte



 
MPI Outdoors is owned by an aquaintance of mine, and his site is a very valuable resource for this type of thing. I have written some columns utilizing info from his site, including lists. I will also post a couple of lists here...

His site www.mpioutdoors.com
 
Here are a couple of his lists:

Suggested Disaster Evacuation Kit.
Buy one of those 5-gallon buckets with a lid from the Home Depot or Lowes and pack it with the following items. Store this bucket in the front hall closet or in the garage so you can easily grab it and go if and when the time comes to evacuate your home. Replace noted items every 3 to 6 months; tape a piece of paper on the top so you know when you last updated your supplies.
Bucket Contents:
- Flashlights at least 2 of them without batteries inserted.
- Batteries for flashlights, at least 3 sets for each light... watch dates on package
- Small roll of duct tape, and a pair of work gloves, you may need them.
- Chemical light sticks (8-12 hour variety) at least 4 (longer lasting light for kids)
- Portable radio (batteries out) with 2 sets of batteries
- A Small Basic First Aid Kit
- Roll of toilet paper - Toothbrush - toothpaste - small bar of soap - washcloth - Wet Wipes
- Water: bottled water (rotate every 6 months) 12 bottles. Stack around perimeter of bucket, one up one down- fill middle area of bucket with other gear to hold water bottles against the sides. Water is heavy, but necessary and could be a scarce commodity in a shelter.
- A 32 oz. wide mouth polycarbonate water bottle (available at hiking shops) in case you have to secure water in a shelter. Put as many personal toiletries inside the bottle as you can.
- Save a small eyedropper type bottle and fill it with household bleach, dump out old and fill with new bleach every 6 months. Should it be necessary you can use the bleach to disinfect your drinking water. 1 quart = 2 drops if water is clear, 4 drops if water is cloudy.
- A few High-energy food/snack bars and some pieces of hard candy and/or mints.
- Pre-sweetened ice tea packets or drink mix, maybe even some dry soup mix.
- Consider including an ESBIT( Pocket Stove and solid fuel tablets, to heat water for a cup of tea or soup, a little comfort item. Put in a metal campers cup to use over the flame.
- Small hard plastic cups, in case they are dispensing water.
- Next time you are in a fast food place, take a few sugar and salt/pepper packages to spice up shelter food service.
- Your out of state family-friends phone contact numbers taped inside the lid, also include your home/car insurance policy# and agent contact #...
- Draw top kitchen trash bags - use bucket as emergency toilet, bags as disposable liners.
- Smokers; put in a pack of cigarettes and lighter, you don't need stress in a time like this.
- Pen and a notebook, you will need it.
- If you have children, small puzzle books, deck of playing cards, reading material, a ball and small game items to occupy their time if you are stuck in a shelter.
- Some cash as credit cards and your ATM will be useless.
Personal Papers: Since you live in a disaster prone area get all personal papers such as deeds, bank books, check books, insurance papers, agents phone numbers, car titles in one place so you can take them if you have to evacuate. Have them stored in a plastic folder that you can buy at Staples or Office Max... so it's a grab and go.
Personal Medication: Keep an empty zip lock poly bag stored inside your medicine cabinet, place all your personal need medications in it and take with you when it is time to evacuate. Don't forget your extra pair of glasses. For help in times of panic, write beforehand on the bag with a marker or make a list of the items you really need to put in this bag when the time comes.
Your Cell phone: Most of us have cell phones today, make sure you have a car recharging unit to take with you so you will be able to recharge the phone battery from any car lighter or 12V socket. Electricity outlets may not be readily available.
Inside your car: Put a few SPACE( Brand ALL WEATHER Blankets inside your trunk, bungee cord them up on the slots in the trunk lid, makes for use as emergency blankets, privacy tarps, provides warmth and protection from wind and/or rain, and can be used as a cot cover. In warmer climes, put one or two one-gallon bottles of spring water in the trunk in a small cardboard box to stop them from banging around. Replace them every 3 months. If you have the room in your trunk put in an extra set of work type clothes like jeans and t-shirts and clean socks.


SUGGESTED PERSONAL SURVIVAL KIT
This is only a suggested outline for a personal outdoor survival kit; it is by no means all encompassing. Always customize your kit to meet your specific needs.
12" x 24" sheets of Aluminum foil Fold for cooking, fire reflector from wind or use to signal
Heavy plastic bag, preferably Zip-Lock Use for water, food storage, keeping things dry
SPACE Brand Emergency Blanket Shelter, signaling, personal protection from elements and a means to provide warmth
A high shrill whistle 3 short blasts is a recognized distress signal
A good quality Compass Navigation needs
Waterproof wooden matches and tinder  (Having more is better - try adding a few small birthday candles to your fire kit, get the kind you can't blow out) Provides ability for fire starting, if you can start a fire you know will be OK. (Stops panic)
Bouillon cubes or instant soup mix, salt/pepper Sustenance--boil water in aluminum foil made pot, add spices
Bright colored Bandanna or cloth Filtering dirty water, signaling, head band, sling, wash cloth, etc.
Chemical light sticks (8 - 12 hour type)  (Flashlights/batteries are not very dependable over time and in cold weather situations) Provides light, signaling and for your personal well being
Small multiple function knife-multi-tool For your general tool needs
Water purification tablets Insures you have potable water
Small Fishing kit Line, hooks, lures, snares, repairs
Signal mirror Visual signaling
Wire saw Shelter building, tinder making
Hard candy or a high energy bar Survival food, peace of mind
Heavy Duty cord, thread/needle Shelters, snares, repairs
Insect repellent and lip balm Personal comfort/protection
SMALL First Aid Kit: Bandages, antiseptic, pills, etc. Suited to the terrain you are in and your personal needs. Don't pack for surgery; pack what you know you may need.
Pocket Hand Warmers Ideal for staving off hypothermia
Survival Notes-make your own notes Reminder guide (puts your mind at ease) of what to do and what not to do
A picture of your loved ones For the will to survive
Over and above the "21 Basics" above that I choose to carry within my personal survival kit are: moleskin pads, wet-naps, plastic wire ties, nylon cord, a few large balloons and a few short cut pieces of the wood slat from the bottom of household shades or cut up paint stirrers and some ESBIT Tablets for dry and easy starting tinder needs.
The purpose of any Personal Survival Kit is two fold:
1) To insure that you have the potentially needed items available to provide for your well being and safety in the event you may need them, and
2) As a means to create positive psychological security for you and those that may be with you, just knowing it is there when and should you need it will help curb the negatives of panic from arising.
¨ Store your Personal Survival Kit items inside a small zippered pouch, one that is easy to carry with you at all times and can be easily located in times of crisis. Add a bright band of colored or reflective tape around it so that you can find it easily when it may be needed.
¨ Add a terrain map, if available and any personal medication needs.
Not copyrighted by design. Please feel free to use in whole or part within any media.
 
personally, id see every kid with a handheld GPS with extra batteries.

as far as clothes go, polypropelene(i hope i didnt butcher the spelling to bad)  is the best ur gonna get for outdoors as thermal underwear. the CF issues that to us soldiers, but civis can buy it at marks work warehouse. the stuff us very warm and dries very fast if u sweat, it is breathable. so it is pretty much the best thing ur gonna get i think for winter/ fall cooler weather. just make sure its placed next to the skin, with nothing underneath it as that will hamper its ability to keep u warm and dry. im sure u know about polypro tho, and if not im sure there are plenty of soldiers on this site who are willing to go into detail on how it works(ive only got a couple mins atm). also, gortex is another unbeatable material for clothing, its the only material im aware of thats completely 100% waterproof and breathable, so if u sweat the moisture will be able to evaporate thru ur jacket and not stay soaked on ur body giving u hypothermia when u stop moving. everything else i think was already mentioned, maybe these items were as well and i jut didnt see them. but those 2 materials is what keeps u alive in the cold, and with the GPS, ull never get lost.

just my 2 cents i hope it helped
 
Ubercree, first off let me add Infanteer's welcome to the site. Hope to see more of you around here.

Sounds like an excellent program that you're setting up running there. A lot more practical real world stuff and self confidence building there than is presently taught to youth here in the inner city at the centre of the universe, but that's our warm fuzzy hug mindset I guess.

Don't know how big the grant is or how many kids you have to equip, but seems to me that the old standby MEC might be a good place to start both for outdoor clothes and other assorted bits and pieces, day packs etc.

http://www.mec.ca/index.html

They even have a store in Winnipeg now.

http://www.mec.ca/Main/content_text.jsp;jsessionid=DZBZQmR8Q12NhlyyWz10v9YgqBnJzj14tPRnrGp2R1Lzvf2BpvKg!1125895958?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302339573&bmUID=1129922841227
 
+1 on the MEC, I have a grand total of zero complaints about their products. Quite the opposite in fact, I always find myself pleasantly surprised by the quality of their goods.

As for specific products, part of me is itching to suggest buying each and every student a US ranger blanket. It's a rectangle of camouflaged fabricy goodness.

Cheers,
Pinky
 
loyaleddie87 said:
personally, id see every kid with a handheld GPS with extra batteries.

as far as clothes go, polypropelene(i hope i didnt butcher the spelling to bad)  is the best ur gonna get for outdoors as thermal underwear. the CF issues that to us soldiers, but civis can buy it at marks work warehouse. the stuff us very warm and dries very fast if u sweat, it is breathable. so it is pretty much the best thing ur gonna get i think for winter/ fall cooler weather. just make sure its placed next to the skin, with nothing underneath it as that will hamper its ability to keep u warm and dry. im sure u know about polypro tho, and if not im sure there are plenty of soldiers on this site who are willing to go into detail on how it works(ive only got a couple mins atm). also, gortex is another unbeatable material for clothing, its the only material im aware of thats completely 100% waterproof and breathable, so if u sweat the moisture will be able to evaporate thru ur jacket and not stay soaked on ur body giving u hypothermia when u stop moving. everything else i think was already mentioned, maybe these items were as well and i jut didnt see them. but those 2 materials is what keeps u alive in the cold, and with the GPS, ull never get lost.

just my 2 cents i hope it helped

Gortex is not 100% waterproof because it is breathable!  The material is woven so that it's easier for water to get out and not in.  Imagine  it being made of thousands of tiny funnels.  That being said, the only time I've ever had water penetrate gortex was a night when I was sleeping in my bivy bag, and only after a puddle had formed between my legs and had several hours to soak through.
 
Well I'm not sure how long your trips are - but I'd stick to the basics.

Boots and OuterWear, as you state some of the students have no basic kit.
You know the weather and terrain better than us, and you have the knowlegde and skills to pick the best setups in that regard.


I view the handheld GPS as a luxury - not needed especially with beginners (some get lazy or just plain never learn basic map and compass).



 
KevinB said:
I view the handheld GPS as a luxury - not needed especially with beginners (some get lazy or just plain never learn basic map and compass).

Amen to that. One ex our GPS guy got us lost because the small electronic box told him that the nav team was getting it all wrong. When it comes to nav (like most things in life, I suppose) simple is better, IMO. A compass is nothing more than a floating, spinning magnet. No circuit boards to crack, LCD screens to freeze, or batteries to die. Oh, and compasses work even when you're surrounded by tall trees.

To echo KevinB's post, stick with the basics. There's a saying that says something about learning to walk before you can run ;)

Cheers,
Pinky
 
Thank you for the input so far.

So far I have 10k to spend... with numerous proposals pending.

My gear list now consists of:
  12 x cold weather clothes complete; including muluks, parkas, toques, etc.
  12 x rain gear tops and bottoms
 
24 x compasses (I got a complete classroom compass kit from brunton including an overhead compass and vhs.
20 x Snowshoes
8 x Grumman Canoes
20 x wooden paddles
20 x lifejackets


Next we are looking at leasing some trail ski-doos and or quads...OR a BV206... Thats my choice for sure.  Just have to convince the bosses!  HAHA

We're doing good stuff here so watch for us. 

 
Looks good.

I'm presuming that follow up courses will get further funding. If so then the students could keept the cold and/or wet weather gear as a graduation gift (and then hopefully use it and their new found skills on a regular basis) while you stockpile the compasses, snow shoes etc and build up a kitty for future needs purchases.
 
Update.
Got the gear and am using it every day.  Today it was -36 (-52 with wind chill) and we all spent the day outdoors.  Not an easy task to manage with teenagers who would otherwise only wear a hoodie and runners all winter!
CBC was with us on Tuesday for a segment on Country Canada.  Watch for it.
 
UberCree said:
Update.
Got the gear and am using it every day.  Today it was -36 (-52 with wind chill) and we all spent the day outdoors.  Not an easy task to manage with teenagers who would otherwise only wear a hoodie and runners all winter!
CBC was with us on Tuesday for a segment on Country Canada.  Watch for it.

I'm looking forward to checking this out - keep us posted on how things are developing!!


blake
 
The Brunton Kit is a good training aid, but I prefer the Brunton/Silva/ compasses with the declination adjustment setting and mirror for more serious work.

Do you have a map and compass workbook for teaching problem solving?

 
I have the student workbook that came with the Brunton kit.  It is pretty good and covers compass parts, bearings and direction, topo features, declination, terms, map and compass activities and a sample map at back. 
I am not going with GPS's as suggested above.  Will focus more on map and compass with only a brief overview of gps use.

 
Note page 15!

http://www.dnd.ca/site/community/MapleLeaf/vol_9/vol9_10/910_full.pdf

;D
 
The Country Canada episode is airing today.  Only has a wee bit on my class.

Very good show though as far as supporting trapping and hunting.

 
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