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Russian Airbus A-321 Down in Middle East

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BBC reports:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34687139

Russian airliner crashes in central Sinai - Egyptian PM

6 minutes ago
A Russian airliner has crashed in central Sinai with more than 200 people on board, the office of Egypt's prime minister has confirmed.

The Airbus A-321 had just taken off from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, on its way to the Russian city of St Petersburg.

There were conflicting reports about the fate of the plane, some suggesting it had disappeared over Cyprus.

Most of the passengers are said to be Russian tourists.

The plane is operated by the Russian airline Kogalymavia. Latest reports say it is carrying 217 passengers and seven crew.

The Russian aviation authority Rosaviatsiya said in a statement that flight 9268 left Sharm el-Sheikh at 06:51 Moscow time (03:51 GMT) and was due into St Petersburg's Pulkovo airport at 12:10.

The authority added that the aircraft failed to make scheduled contact with Cyprus air traffic control 23 minutes after take-off and disappeared from the radar.
 
Note to ISIS:  best not to bite off more than you can chew, especially if you DIDN'T do it ....
A Russian charter plane carrying 224 people crashed in a mountainous part of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula Saturday, killing everyone on board, officials said.

The Islamic State (IS) group affiliate in Egypt claimed it downed the plane, without saying how, but an Egyptian security official said the plane did not crash because of an attack.

Russian Transport Minister Maksim Sokolov said the IS claim "cannot be considered accurate", adding that authorities in Egypt "have no such information that would confirm such insinuations," Russian news agencies reported.

The Airbus A321 with 214 Russian and three Ukranian passengers and seven crew, had taken off from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh in south Sinai bound for Saint Petersburg.

It lost contact with air traffic control 23 minutes later.

Egyptian security and medical officials said there were no survivors, and that bodies and debris were spread over around five square kilometres (two square miles).

The Russian embassy in Cairo said: "Unfortunately, all passengers of Kogalymavia flight 9268 Sharm el-Sheikh-Saint Petersburg have died. We issue condolences to family and friends."

The wreckage was found roughly 100 kilometres (60 miles) south of the North Sinai town of El-Arish, Egyptian officials said.

The IS affiliate waging an insurgency in the Sinai claimed that "the soldiers of the caliphate succeeded in bringing down a Russian plane".

It said this was in revenge for Russian air strikes against IS in Syria.

Three military experts said IS in Sinai does not have surface-to-air missiles capable of hitting a plane at high altitude ....
More on the Russian plane crash in Egypt here (Google News).
 
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Sinai plane crash: No survivors on Russian airliner KGL9268
BBC NEWS

A Russian airliner has crashed in central Sinai killing all 224 people on board, Egyptian officials have said.

The Airbus A-321 had just left the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, bound for the Russian city of St Petersburg.

Wreckage was found in the Hasana area and bodies removed, along with the plane's "black box". An official described a "tragic scene" with bodies of victims still strapped to seats.

Egypt's prime minister said no "irregular" activities were to blame.

Sinai has an active militant network, and on Saturday afternoon, jihadis allied to the so-called Islamic State made a claim on social media that they brought down flight KGL9268.

But Russian Transport Minister Maksim Sokolov told Interfax news agency that "such reports cannot be considered true". No evidence had been seen that indicated the plane was targeted, he said.

Egypt's civilian aviation ministry said the plane had been at an altitude of 9,450m (31,000ft) when it disappeared.
Security experts say a plane flying at that altitude would be beyond the range of a shoulder-launched surface-to-air missile (Manpad), which Sinai militants are known to possess.

But the German carrier Lufthansa said it would avoid flying over Sinai "as long as the cause for today's crash has not been clarified".
On Saturday evening, Air France said it was following suit.

British Airways and easyJet said their routes were regularly reviewed, but that they had no plans to alter their routes to and from Sharm el-Sheikh.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has declared Sunday a day of mourning.

He has ordered an official investigation into the crash of the flight, and for rescue teams to be sent to the crash site.
Egyptian officials said 214 of the passengers were Russian and three Ukrainian.

Russian authorities say the plane was carrying 217 passengers, 138 of them women and 17 children aged between 2 and 17. Most were tourists. There were seven crew on board.

A commission headed by Mr Sokolov left for Egypt on Saturday afternoon.

A criminal case had been opened against the airline, Kogalymavia, for "violation of rules of flight and preparation for them", Russia's Ria news agency reported.

Yulia Zaitseva said her friends, newlyweds Elena Rodina and Alexander Krotov, were on board.

"We were friends for 20 years," she told AP at a hotel where relatives were meeting near Pulkovo airport in St Petersburg.

"To lose such a friend is like having your hand cut off."

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Timeline: the course of flight KGL9268

05:58 Egyptian time (03:58 GMT): flight leaves Sharm el-Sheikh, the Egyptian cabinet says in a statement

06:14 Egyptian time (04:14 GMT): plane fails to make scheduled contact with air traffic control based in Larnaca, Cyprus, according to Sergei Izdolsky, an official with Russia's air transport agency.

06:17 Egyptian time, approx (04:17 GMT): plane comes down over the Sinai peninsula, according to Airbus

11:12 Egyptian time (09:12 GMT): flight had been due to land in St Petersburg's Pulkovo airport

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Oksana Golovin, a spokeswoman for Kogalymavia, said the company did not see any grounds to blame human error.

She told a press conference that the pilot had 12,000 hours of flying experience. Kogalymavia did not yet know what caused the crash, she said, but the plane was fully serviced.

Police are reported to be searching the company's offices.

Initially there were conflicting reports about the fate of the plane, some suggesting it had disappeared over Cyprus.

But the office of Egyptian Prime Minister Sharif Ismail confirmed in a statement that a "Russian civilian plane... crashed in the central Sinai".

Officials say up to 50 ambulances have been sent to the scene. Access to the area is strictly controlled by the military.

One official told Reuters news agency that at least 100 bodies had been found.

"I now see a tragic scene," the official said. "A lot of dead on the ground and many died whilst strapped to their seats."

The plane split in two, with one part burning up and the other crashing into a rock, he added.

Kogalymavia airline

Also known as KolAvia

Founded in 1993

Carried out regular and charter flights to other parts of Russia from the western Siberian towns of Kogalym and Surgut, and helicopter flights for the oil and gas industry

Rebranded as Metrojet in 2012

After takeover by tourism company TH&C in 2013, began flights to international destinations popular with Russian holiday-makers

Currently has fleet of seven Airbus-321s and two Airbus-320s

Live flight tracking service Flight Radar 24's Mikail Robertson told the BBC that the plane started to drop very fast, losing 1,500 metres in one minute before coverage was lost.

Egyptian aviation official Ayman al-Mukadem said the pilot had reported technical difficulties before the plane went missing, the Associated Press reported.

Local weather observations in the vicinity of the rescue scene suggest relatively benign conditions.


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Islamic State claims it shot down this aircraft:  http://pamelageller.com/2015/10/watch-islamic-state-released-this-video-of-shooting-russian-passenger-out-of-the-sky.html/
 
I heard they assassinated JFK as well. [emoji48]
 
The evil bastards, that faggy sound track, is cruel and unusual punishment.
 
I think a bomb id the likely cause.Once it got to altitude it went into a steep dive.No may day.Tragic but no one does revenge like the Russians.
 
Sky News is saying the pilots reported a technical problem and a request for an emergency landing.......

http://news.sky.com/story/1579357/egypt-plane-crash-what-we-know-so-far



Cheers
Larry
 
Technical fault is what Egypt's PM said.Too early to tell I suppose.
 
The plane broke apart in the air one expert is saying as the pieces are scattered over a wide area.

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-plane-broke-apart-air-russian-aviation-official-144118046.html
 
But I note that "they" are still saying there is no indication that an explosion occurred.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russian-plane-crash-egypt-investigation-1.3298867
 
I guess there are other possible causes for an aircraft to fall apart at 30000 ft. :pumpkin:
 
I'm just waiting for the conspiracy nuts to come out and claim Putin organized it all to justify going after ISIS on Assad's side.  Just like the same garbage around 9/11and the USG.
 
tomahawk6 said:
I guess there are other possible causes for an aircraft to fall apart at 30000 ft. :pumpkin:

...exploding fuel vapours in a center-wingbox fuel tank...    :Tin-Foil-Hat:
 
Good2Golf said:
...exploding fuel vapours in a center-wingbox fuel tank...    :Tin-Foil-Hat:

If the tanks were full can that still happen ?
 
George Wallace said:
Islamic State claims it shot down this aircraft:  http://pamelageller.com/2015/10/watch-islamic-state-released-this-video-of-shooting-russian-passenger-out-of-the-sky.html/

Guess they don't know what happens when you poke a bear in the eye ;D
 
tomahawk6 said:
If the tanks were full can that still happen ?

No, and even if the tanks are empty, there is far too much fuel vapour concentration to allow a stoichiometric fuel:air mixture such as would support self-sustaining ignition.  Except TWA800...that was an exceptional situation...  :Tin-Foil-Hat: :Tin-Foil-Hat:
 
Thanks for the edification gents.When I saw the pictures from the crash site it seemed like the Pan Am 103 bombing all over again.
 
The UK and unnamed sources in the US give support to the idea that ISIS affiliates planted a bomb on the Russian airliner.

Sinai plane crash: Bomb may have downed airliner, US and UK say
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34728901

 
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