This just in: Hell about to freeze over

[daftandbarmy]

They must be joking.... please :crybaby:

Air Canada Named 'Best International Airline in North America' in Global Industry Survey of More than 18 Million Travelers
Third consecutive year Air Canada named a winner at Skytrax World Airline Awards

MONTREAL, July 12, 2012 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada has been named the 'Best International Airline in North America' in a worldwide survey of air travelers for the Skytrax World Airline Awards. In what Skytrax termed "a remarkable repeat success", it is the third consecutive year Air Canada has ranked among the top global carriers in the awards, which surveyed more than 18 million passengers worldwide. The annual survey, whose findings were announced today at the Farnborough International Airshow, is regarded in the air transport industry as a key benchmarking tool for airline passenger satisfaction levels.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1006877/air-canada-named-best-international-airline-in-north-america-in-global-industry-survey-of-more-than-18-million-travelers

 

[George Wallace]

I wonder if any of those who cast votes actually flew Air Canada.  Then again, it states that they were the best in North America, not the best in the world.  There are far better International Carriers, and I am sure, Air Canada doesn't rank high among them. 

Air Canada was preferred by 73 per cent of Canadian business travellers surveyed for 2011, the third consecutive year of improvement in Air Canada's ratings in the national survey.

Not hard to do when you hold a virtual monopoly on air travel in Canada.

 

[Cthulhu]

"There are far better International Carriers, and I am sure, Air Canada doesn't rank high among them.  "

A true fact ... we all know that everything about Canada is substandard.

Trying to take away one of our National Icons? Dislike of Air Canada? Sacre Blue

 

[GAP]

Don't companies buy these awards......



"Best Mattress supplier for the year" "Gold Award for XXX...xx"...etc....

 

[medicineman]

Maybe it was all of Air Canada's employees that voted them in...I know I refuse to fly them anymore except under duress.

MM

 

[Fishbone Jones]

"There are far better International Carriers, and I am sure, Air Canada doesn't rank high among them.  "

A true fact ... we all know that everything about Canada is substandard.

Trying to take away one of our National Icons? Dislike of Air Canada? Sacre Blue

Nice try Kalatzi.

Milnet.ca Staff

 

[Pat in Halifax]

They must be joking.... please :crybaby:

Air Canada Named 'Best International Airline in North America' in Global Industry Survey of More than 18 Million Travelers
Third consecutive year Air Canada named a winner at Skytrax World Airline Awards

MONTREAL, July 12, 2012 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada has been named the 'Best International Airline in North America' in a worldwide survey of air travelers for the Skytrax World Airline Awards. In what Skytrax termed "a remarkable repeat success", it is the third consecutive year Air Canada has ranked among the top global carriers in the awards, which surveyed more than 18 million passengers worldwide. The annual survey, whose findings were announced today at the Farnborough International Airshow, is regarded in the air transport industry as a key benchmarking tool for airline passenger satisfaction levels.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1006877/air-canada-named-best-international-airline-in-north-america-in-global-industry-survey-of-more-than-18-million-travelers

ALL the other North American airlines are obviously absolutely horrible methinx!

 

[SupersonicMax]

Having flown a great deal of airlines, around the world and in North America, sadly, Air Canada is indeed the best...  Try flying Delta within North America, you will understand...

 

[aesop081]

I'm with Max on this one.

Air Canada does a very good job on it's international routes. The service is vastly different, IMHO, compared to it's in-Canada routes.

 

[Sub_Guy]

I may be in the minority, but I prefer Air Canada, and I dislike flying with WestJet.

I find the Westjet seats uncomfortable, and their entertainment system is a complete waste.  (wait until they rip out all the TV's and offer to rent Tablets, a step backwards)

The little circus the WestJet flight attendants put on, is beyond annoying.  At least with Air Canada, I can watch newer movies and my ass doesn't fall asleep.

 

[Danjanou]

I'm with Max on this one.

Air Canada does a very good job on it's international routes. The service is vastly different, IMHO, compared to it's in-Canada routes.

Probably because there they have to compete with the real airlines like KLM, Cathay etc. Domestically there really isn't much choice, although regionally in Southern Ontario Porter is making them sweat. 8)

 

[cupper]

Hell can't freeze over, because hell is exothermic. ;D

"First, We postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave.

Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, then you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and souls go to hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant. Two options exist:

1. If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.

2. If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.

So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by Theresa Manyan during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I still have NOT succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then Option 2 cannot be true...Thus, hell is exothermic."

 

[SupersonicMax]

Probably because there they have to compete with the real airlines like KLM, Cathay etc. Domestically there really isn't much choice, although regionally in Southern Ontario Porter is making them sweat. 8)

KLM really?  Worst service I had flying overseas was with KLM, by FAR!

Singapore Airlines was good, Thai airways was sketchy at best, Emirates was good.  Lufthansa was okay, nowhere near Air Canada....  Air France was actually very nice, as well as British Airways...

 

[AmmoTech90]

Within North American carriers I have to say Air Canada does have very good service.  I flew a lot in the last two years and I dread United, American, US, or Delta.  British Airways going from London to Cyprus was a nightmare.  AC does not have excellent service, but they have consistently acceptable service (and the chairback video screens are nice).  Once I start paying for my own flights I may become more critical.

 

[Scott]

Air Canada International and Domestic are WORLDS apart.

If I'm flying within Canada then I really do not give a damn who I fly with. I haven't been able to try Porter as of yet, but wish to based on reviews I've heard from some frequent fliers here. If given the choice in Canada I'll fly WestJet for any short haul flight but would stick with AC for longer hauls because of the Aeroplan miles (hey, they do add up).

In my job I get to speak with loads of international travelers and many have told me that they believe AC International does a pretty damned good job. They are far from perfect but way past acceptable.

Honestly, the vast majority of my negative experiences when it comes to air travel, and I am through Heathrow every three weeks or so, can be put down to idiot passengers. When the airlines fuck up they at least do something to make it right - there's no compensation for missing a connection because some fucking dolt didn't read a newspaper over the last 11 years and decided to try and get his thousand dollar bottle of scotch through the screening point.

Since I started traveling out of Canada for the majority of my work I have had maybe four bad experiences with AC, two of which involved lost/delayed bags, the other two being personnel issues/attitudes. Each and every time I sent a reasoned and polite email to them and each and every time I got a ''gift'' in return. Three of the times I actually told them that travel vouchers are no good to me, please give me lounge passes to share with friends/family, and they did.

 

[Danjanou]

Max my experiences with KLM were many moons ago and limited, so I'll take your word for it now. Agree re Singapore, most Asian carriers really push the customer service which is why I still  love Cathay, even though they no longer offer their All Asia Pass. I can't imagine 12-13 hours over the Pacific in anything else. 8)

Domestically I'd prefer Porter or West Jet, over Air Canada but would take it over some of the charters still running like Air-Transat. Sunwing is hit or miss. I do miss some of the old charter lines like Royal though.

Internationally I guess there are worse airlines out there, Air Philipines, Cubana ( especially in the pre Airbus days)

 

[Scott]

I flew Transat to Cuba in April and had NO issues with their service. I was wary when the wife booked the trip but they dispelled any fears of service I might have had. The seats ain't the roomiest but you expect that heading to sun destinations or on charters.

 

[bridges]

I'm guessing that the business travellers surveyed didn't know there WERE any other international carriers in Canada.  There are at least three Canadian airlines that I can think of, that fly regularly scheduled service internationally - WJ, Porter and First Air which now flies to Nuuk, Greenland from Iqaluit.  Then there are the charters, and probably several smaller carriers as well.

AC has stated outright that the domestic market is not a priority for them.  On that principle and on my past experiences, which tend toward the negative, I'll fly AC only if there's no other choice to that particular location.  Aeroplan points are no longer a factor as I can never get a seat in the time period I'm looking for, even booking months ahead of time. 

WestJet and Porter get my vote.  :2c:


Edit:  woops, went too fast over the original article - it's the "best" international carrier in North America, not just Canada.  Anyway if AC's international service is so much better than its domestic, then we're comparing apples & oranges.  I've flown AC both domestically and internationally in the last two months, and didn't notice any appreciable difference between the two. 

 

 

[Scott]

I'm guessing that the business travellers surveyed didn't know there WERE any other international carriers in Canada.  There are at least three Canadian airlines that I can think of, that fly regularly scheduled service internationally - WJ, Porter and First Air which now flies to Nuuk, Greenland from Iqaluit.  Then there are the charters, and probably several smaller carriers as well.

Because there are shitloads of people flying to Nuuk, right?  ;D

I've been there, took the long route.

AC has stated outright that the domestic market is not a priority for them.  On that principle and on my past experiences, which tend toward the negative, I'll fly AC only if there's no other choice to that particular location.  Aeroplan points are no longer a factor as I can never get a seat in the time period I'm looking for, even booking months ahead of time. 

WestJet and Porter get my vote.  :2c:

The best advice I got about Aeroplan miles (gained here) was to use them for merchandaise, which I gladly do. Thus far my wife has gotten an iPad and I treated myself to a pair of sunglasses. Next up might be one of those bubble hockey tables.

 

[bridges]

Because there are shitloads of people flying to Nuuk, right?  ;D

Just saying.    I'm on First Air's e-mail list, & saw Nuuk recently added to their schedule.

The best advice I got about Aeroplan miles (gained here) was to use them for merchandaise, which I gladly do. Thus far my wife has gotten an iPad and I treated myself to a pair of sunglasses. Next up might be one of those bubble hockey tables.

That is an excellent idea.  Because clearly, booking flights does not work for everybody - which I suspect is part of the master AC plan.    :Tin-Foil-Hat: