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Time to remember the Mac-Paps?

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It is according to this Toronto Star op-ed writer....
"Quick, identify the Canadian battalion that celebrates its 75th anniversary this month.

If you didn’t guess the Mackenzie-Papineau Battalion you’re not alone. Few would.

Their founding date, May 1937, will go unheralded and the vets who served with them in the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) won’t be celebrating either. Of approximately 1,543 original members, only Jules Paivio is still alive and at 95, he’s too frail to be kicking up his heels.

(....)

Governments do not do mea culpa well. Still, most Canadians today would agree that standing up to Hitler and Mussolini in the early days might have prevented WWII and 44,093 Canadian deaths. The volunteers to Spain understood this and had the courage to back their convictions.

It’s been 75 years: it’s time to cut these men, their families and their memory some slack. It’s time to accord them their rightful place in the history books and time to give them a thought come next Nov. 11."
Technically, the anniversary would be 1 July, when the Battalion was officially stood up in Spain.

I've also attached then-Governor General Adrienne Clarkson's speech at the dedication of the Mac-Pap monument in Ottawa in October 2001 - links to the speech on the GG's web site don't seem to work anymore.
 
The problem with celebrating this event is it shows how shallow the "new left" is when it comes to hardcore commitment to the cause.
 
Colin P said:
The problem with celebrating this event is it shows how shallow the "new left" is when it comes to hardcore commitment to the cause.

Colin remember they were all (white) men and used guns and violence and stuff, not very "progressive"  now were they  ::)
 
Danjanou said:
Colin P said:
The problem with celebrating this event is it shows how shallow the "new left" is when it comes to hardcore commitment to the cause.
Colin remember they were all (white) men and used guns and violence and stuff, not very "progressive"  now were they  ::)
Good points - milpoints inbound to both of you.....
 
Danjanou said:
Colin remember they were all (white) men and used guns and violence and stuff, not very "progressive"  now were they  ::)

So can we stand up a battalion of diverse Canadians of leftist persuasion to carry their beliefs into the Congo/Afghanistan/Syria/Somalia/Sudan?

We can equip them with rainbow coloured helmets and orange coveralls.  8)
 
Colin P said:
So can we stand up a battalion of diverse Canadians of leftist persuasion to carry their beliefs into the Congo/Afghanistan/Syria/Somalia/Sudan?

We can equip them with rainbow coloured helmets and orange coveralls.  8)

works for me, perhaps we could recruit from this lot?  >:D

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Bumped with a bit of the latest from the "wet coast"....
A Mac-Pap Memorial Stone was unveiled at a joint Cumberland Museum and Canadian Veterans Memorial Ceremony at the Cumberland Cemetery, Saturday, June 20. The cost of the stone was covered by B.C. supporters of the Mac-Paps, as well as the national charity organization “Friends of the Mackenzie Papineau Battalion”.

The Spanish Civil War is often seen as a prelude to World War II. The civil war began on July 18, 1936, as army officers attempted to overthrow the democratically-elected Republican government.

But it was also a proxy war. The Soviets lent significant organizational and material support to the elected Spanish Republican government. That assistance, however, was dwarfed by the backing Mussolini and Hitler provided to their fellow fascist Francisco Franco.  Some 75,000 Italian fascists fought in Spain. The Nazis not only helped the rebel nationalist forces, but used Spain as a military laboratory for their nascent Luftwaffe. The most notorious example of this was the terror bombing of the northern Basque torn of Guernica in April 1937.

The Western Powers adopted a policy of non-intervention, imposing an arms embargo upon the official government and the fascist rebels alike. The war ended in a rebel fascist victory on April 1, 1939, after 32 months of fighting and some 500,000 deaths.

Republican International Brigade volunteer soldiers came from abroad and the recruitment of some 45,000 volunteers were organized world-wide ....
And how many of those highlighted in yellow died in political purges?
 
milnews.ca said:
Bumped with a bit of the latest from the "wet coast"....And how many of those highlighted in yellow died in political purges?

It's weird how people who are non-interventionalist would support the memorial of the Mac-Paps, who were essentially mercenaries (I dont believe that they were ever officially authorized by Canada) fighting a war of intervention in Spain. I guess armed intervention is ok in some cases then?
 
Bird_Gunner45 said:
I guess armed intervention is ok in some cases then?
It's the same with any group - armed intervention is OK as long as it's for "OUR side".
 
milnews.ca said:
It's the same with any group - armed intervention is OK as long as it's for "OUR side".

True.. that's why we dont have memorials for Canadians who went and fought for the Republican side. Or a mention that the Republican side was, essentially, communists (Mac-Pap was led by a trade union organizer). That wouldn't fit our narative.
 
Bird_Gunner45 said:
True.. that's why we dont have memorials for Canadians who went and fought for the Republican side. Or a mention that the Republican side was, essentially, communists (Mac-Pap was led by a trade union organizer). That wouldn't fit our narative.

It will be if the NDP get voted in
 
I've also attached then-Governor General Adrienne Clarkson's speech at the dedication of the Mac-Pap monument in Ottawa in October 2001 - links to the speech on the GG's web site don't seem to work anymore.
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Under some of the GGs pages, they have Archived speeches and messages:
http://archive.gg.ca/media/doc.asp?lang=e&DocID=1331

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