Posted by "Gow" <jgow@home.com> on Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:04:13 -0400
Any chance you could just reply to jgow@home.com?
Then we could just discuss it like gentlemen....if that would be what we
are...
LOL!
John
----- Original Message -----
From: F. A.
To: army@cipherlogic.on.ca
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: Was U571... kind of getting off topic now though...
John
Oh crap, now I did it Admittedly not everyone likes Ralph
or Mike or Grant. I didn‘t realize Ralph was cheap, popcorn? I don‘t
quite follow. And I‘m not really sure how Ralph is about the same as
Grant Devine, perhaps you can enlighten me. What I do understand of
Klein‘s politics, is that he wanted to cut our costs, cut our taxes and
get the province out of being in business. Which is precisely what
Albertans wanted him to do in the last 2 elections. The fact is... it
worked! Though he probably went a wee bit too far on the hospital issue
here in Calgary. Other than that, it‘s really pretty darn good here. Our
taxes are down, I‘m busier than I‘ve ever been in my life and
unemployement has hit 4 in Calgary, very close to the 2.7 theoritical
limit and our debt will cease to exist in 24 months a tthe current rate
of repayment. As well, I wasn‘t aware that Ralph was oblivious of the
country, can you elaborate?
I wasn‘t trying to rile you up. I was just venting a spleen. Besides,
I prefer sticking to CF/military topics...
all the best,
Francois
Gow wrote:
HOT ****!! To get off the topic with you, yes, that is in fact
politics, isn‘t it? But to bleed off extra cash becomes a politician‘s
job...now us tax payers do not like this...but Lucien has done it very
well. And might I add, I DO NOT LIKE Ralph Klein or Mike Harris,
because they are about the same as Grant Devine. Klein with his
obliviousness of the country, his cheapness that is known across the
country...cannot even buy popcorn for himslef, let alone others...but
you Albertans are a case to yourselves I have sisters and
sister-in-laws here... Mike Harris is a weak kneed opportunist who was
lucky enough to be borne to a millionaire father and who has never had
to work in the real world. Cannot even come up with an honest answer to
who he supports federally in an election. Not surprising, he‘s not very
honest in anything else either. Wife basher type that can‘t stay
married...but those millionaires that inherited their cash don‘t give
much of a damn...could you see Mikey, Ralph or Lucien in a uniform,
serving their country? Remember that on voting days John
----- Original Message -----
From: F. A.
To: army@cipherlogic.on.ca
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Was U571... kind of getting off topic now though...
John,
Actually, I was born and raised in Alberta, yep, that
makes me a good ol‘ boy I may come from 14 generations of Quebecois,
but believe me I‘m not a hyphenated Canadian. My father left the Gaspe
in 1954, joining the LdSH, he specifically requested to join an English
speaking Regt. He had had enough of the backwater politics even then. He
was only the second member of the family to join an English Regt, all
the others had served with French speaking units since the Riel
Rebellion. And when he took a medical discharge in 1968 while we were in
Valcatier, he requested the move back to Calgary. I personally believe
Lucien is nothing more than a political opportunist, and more than just
a little deluded. I hope that my family back in Quebec finally figures
out what the PQ/BQ, the educational elite and the French language media
have all been doing for the past 20 years. That is pulling the wool over
their eyes. Ok, now I‘ve done it... completely digressed. Please no
flames, unless I really deserve it.
Francois
in Calgary, honest!
Gow wrote:
I‘m beginning to really like your thoughts, guy.
Maybe there is a possibility between Quebec and ...dare I write
it in the
same line ...no
Saskatchewan...
LOL!
And if I‘m being realistic, Lucien does do a damned fine job as
a premier in
attracting federal attention to his province.
Oh well. We are Canadians, given all that. Chest beating
would probably
be reason to kick us collectively out of the Olympics or
something...
Good Night!
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "F. A."
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: U571...
> John,
>
> Don‘t worry, I wasn‘t going to do any chestbeating. I
just found
the
> movie well, annoying I guess. I was expecting so much more. Oh
well, I
always
> have ‘Das Boot‘ in German letterboxed director‘s cut, all
nearly 3 hours
of it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Francois
>
>
>
> Gow wrote:
>
> > Its the money Francios
> >
> > The Enigma machine was stolen, and delivered to the Allies
by the Czechs
> > and/or Poles
> >
> > the RN capture of a submarine gave a code breaking break in
the "code"
used
> > for the subs alone, and/or that Room 40 was not being
tricked. Not to
> > argue Enigma was an enormous advantage to the Allied Forces
of WWII
they
> > would have won without it, but at a harder, greater cost, so
the world
may
> > be grateful to the Czechs and Poles that got it through to
us.
> >
> > Hollywood is a money-making machine, catering to 300 million
Americans.
> > They get a lot of credit for participation in WWI but lets
face it
they
> > were an ineffective force Canadians did more than anyone
else to break
the
> > front, and Russians bled the German atack to ensure German
defeat.
> >
> > America declined the League of Nations according to their
own self
interest.
> >
> > They sat back and made the big money in WWII, playing both
sides to the
> > middle until finally kicked into the conflict. Once in,
least damaged,
they
> > "carpet-bagged" their way through.
> >
> > Geez!
> >
> > Francois, I know your grandfather was a R22e, but sdon‘t get
me
> > started...have been to Hearst and Kapuskasing et al homes to
runaways
that
> > did not want to get into it. Have spent umpteen years being
"americanized"
> > to death that Sam is the Man and it just ain‘t so!
> >
> > If its a crappy, untrue movie, just say so!
> >
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "F. A."
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:22 PM
> > Subject: U571...
> >
> > > I just watched U-571... sigh. Very disappointed, okay so
it‘s been out
for
> > a while
> > > old news and I took my time. I was sadly dismayed, it
was so... so
> > > hollywoodizied! Only in the credits the producers
acknowledge the
Enigma
> > machine
> > > was first captured by the RN, 9 months before the US even
entered the
war.
> > So
> > > perhaps I ask this of our American friends on the news
group, for whom
I
> > respect
> > > their opinion, is this the only way Hollywood can tell a
story? Take
out
> > British,
> > > Canadian or who have you and insert Americans? Certainly
not trying to
> > start a
> > > pissing contest, but sheesh!! 35 depth charges at close
range, and at
> > 200
> > > meters? and the sub still didn‘t collapse like a cheap
date!?
> > >
> > > disillusioned... again,
> > >
> > >
> > > Francois
> > >
> > >
> >
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Any chance you could just reply to jgow@home.com?
Then we could just discuss it like gentlemen....if
that would
be what we are...
LOL!
John
----- Original Message -----
From:
F.
A.
To: army@cipherlogic.on.ca
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000
1:49
AM
Subject: Re: Was U571... kind
of getting
off topic now though...
John
Oh crap, now I did it
Admittedly not everyone likes Ralph or Mike or Grant. I
didn‘t
realize Ralph was cheap, popcorn? I don‘t quite follow. And I‘m not
really
sure how Ralph is about the same as Grant Devine, perhaps you can
enlighten
me. What I do understand of Klein‘s politics, is that he wanted to cut
our
costs, cut our taxes and get the province out of being in business.
Which is
precisely what Albertans wanted him to do in the last 2 elections. The
fact
is... it worked! Though he probably went a wee bit too far on the
hospital
issue here in Calgary. Other than that, it‘s really pretty darn good
here. Our
taxes are down, I‘m busier than I‘ve ever been in my life and
unemployement
has hit 4 in Calgary, very close to the 2.7 theoritical limit and
our debt
will cease to exist in 24 months a tthe current rate of repayment. As
well, I
wasn‘t aware that Ralph was oblivious of the country, can you
elaborate?
I wasn‘t trying to rile you up. I was just venting a spleen.
Besides, I
prefer sticking to CF/military topics...
all the best, Francois
Gow wrote:
HOT ****!!To get off
the topic with
you, yes, that is in fact politics, isn‘t it? But to bleed off
extra
cash becomes a politician‘s job...now us tax payers do not like
this...but
Lucien has done it very well. And might I add, I DO NOT LIKE
Ralph
Klein or Mike Harris, because they are about the same as Grant
Devine.
Klein with his obliviousness of the country, his cheapness that is
known
across the country...cannot even buy popcorn for himslef, let alone
others...but you Albertans are a case to yourselves I have sisters
and
sister-in-laws here...Mike Harris is a
weak kneed
opportunist who was lucky enough to be borne to a millionaire father
and who
has never had to work in the real world. Cannot even come up
with an
honest answer to who he supports federally in an election. Not
surprising, he‘s not very honest in anything else either. Wife
basher
type that can‘t stay married...but those millionaires that inherited
their
cash don‘t give much of a damn...could you see Mikey, Ralph or
Lucien in a
uniform, serving their country? Remember that on voting
daysJohn
----- Original Message -----
From:
F.
A.
To: army@cipherlogic.on.ca
Sent: Sunday, October 22,
2000 1:10
AM
Subject: Re: Was U571...
kind of
getting off topic now though...John,
Actually, I was born
and
raised in Alberta, yep, that makes me a good ol‘ boy I
may come
from 14 generations of Quebecois, but believe me I‘m
not a
hyphenated Canadian. My father left the Gaspe in 1954, joining the
LdSH,
he specifically requested to join an English speaking Regt. He had
had
enough of the backwater politics even then. He was only the second
member
of the family to join an English Regt, all the others had served
with
French speaking units since the Riel Rebellion. And when he took a
medical
discharge in 1968 while we were in Valcatier, he requested the
move back
to Calgary. I personally believe Lucien is nothing more than a
political
opportunist, and more than just a little deluded. I hope that my
family
back in Quebec finally figures out what the PQ/BQ, the educational
elite
and the French language media have all been doing for the past 20
years.
That is pulling the wool over their eyes. Ok, now I‘ve done it...
completely digressed. Please no flames, unless I really deserve
it.
Francois in Calgary, honest!
Gow wrote:
I‘m beginning to really like your
thoughts, guy.
Maybe there is a possibility between Quebec and ...dare I
write it in
the same line ...no Saskatchewan...
LOL!
And if I‘m being realistic, Lucien does do a damned fine job
as a
premier in attracting federal attention to his province.
Oh well. We are Canadians, given all that.
Chest
beating would probably be reason to kick us collectively out
of the
Olympics or something...
Good Night!
John ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. A."
ltzzzzzzz@telusplanet.netgt To:
ltarmy@cipherlogic.on.cagt
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: Re:
U571...
gt John, gt
gt Don‘t
worry, I
wasn‘t going to do any chestbeating. I just found the
gt movie
well, annoying I guess. I was expecting so much more. Oh well, I
always gt have ‘Das Boot‘ in German letterboxed
director‘s
cut, all nearly 3 hours of it. gt gt Thanks!
gt
gt Francois gt gt gt gt Gow wrote:
gt gt gt Its the money Francios gt gt
gt
gt The Enigma machine was stolen, and delivered to the Allies
by the
Czechs gt gt and/or Poles gt gt gt gt
the RN
capture of a submarine gave a code breaking break in the "code"
used
gt gt for the subs alone, and/or that Room 40 was not
being
tricked. Not to gt gt argue Enigma
was an
enormous advantage to the Allied Forces of WWII they
gt gt
would have won without it, but at a harder, greater cost, so the
world
may gt gt be grateful to the Czechs and Poles that
got it
through to us. gt gt gt gt Hollywood is a
money-making
machine, catering to 300 million Americans. gt gt They
get a lot
of credit for participation in WWI but lets face it they
gt
gt were an ineffective force Canadians did more than anyone
else to
break the gt gt front, and Russians bled the German
atack to
ensure German defeat. gt gt gt gt America
declined the
League of Nations according to their own self interest.
gt
gt gt gt They sat back and made the big money in WWII,
playing
both sides to the gt gt middle until finally kicked into
the
conflict. Once in, least damaged, they gt gt
"carpet-bagged" their way through. gt gt gt gt
Geez!
gt gt gt gt Francois, I know your grandfather
was a
R22e, but sdon‘t get me gt gt started...have been to
Hearst and
Kapuskasing et al homes to runaways that gt gt did
not want
to get into it. Have spent umpteen years being
"americanized"
gt gt to death that Sam is the Man and it just ain‘t so!
gt gt gt gt If its a crappy, untrue movie, just
say so!
gt gt gt gt John gt gt ----- Original
Message
----- gt gt From: "F. A."
ltzzzzzzz@telusplanet.netgt
gt gt To: ltarmy@cipherlogic.on.cagt gt gt
Sent:
Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:22 PM gt gt Subject:
U571...
gt gt gt gt gt I just watched U-571... sigh.
Very
disappointed, okay so it‘s been out for gt gt a
while
gt gt gt old news and I took my time. I was sadly
dismayed,
it was so... so gt gt gt hollywoodizied! Only in the
credits
the producers acknowledge the Enigma gt gt machine
gt
gt gt was first captured by the RN, 9 months before the US
even
entered the war. gt gt So gt gt gt perhaps
I ask
this of our American friends on the news group, for whom I
gt
gt respect gt gt gt their opinion, is this the only
way
Hollywood can tell a story? Take out gt gt British,
gt
gt gt Canadian or who have you and insert Americans?
Certainly not
trying to gt gt start a gt gt gt pissing
contest, but
sheesh!! 35 depth charges at close range, and at gt gt
200
gt gt gt meters? and the sub still didn‘t collapse
like a
cheap date!? gt gt gt gt gt gt
disillusioned...
again, gt gt gt gt gt gt gt gt gt
Francois
gt gt gt gt gt gt gt gt gt
gt
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gt
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gt to remove, with the line "unsubscribe army" in the gt
gt
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