Units which specialize in guerrillla and counter guerrilla warfare

[sean m]

Hello,

It is clear now in this day in age, a new form of warfare has developed or even been enhanced. Guerrilla warfare has always been used since the ancient Greeks and Alexander the Great. The American Indians personified this type of warfare by using hit and run attacks against the Europeans, this changed the art of war profusely. Yet today, recent conflicts have recently shown what most upcoming wars will be like. There are other threads on this site which refer to possible war with Iran, North Korea, Sudan etc. What would most likely happen in all of these conflicts is that, after the coalition of nations who engage against the nations mentioned prior, there is a high certainty that they would be facing insurgencies using guerrilla tactics in all of these combat zones. Afghanistan has shown that it is not useful in this type of combat to have large bodies of troops in various areas of the country, which can monitor successfully only a certain area. What would seem to be needed, as what is done in Afghanistan, are small units of forces, not solely special forces, spread out through out the country yet which can communicate effectively with one another and which can interact with the local populace better. It would seem likely that this would need to be done with the three nations mentioned. The difference is that this would not be necessary in major cities such as; Tehran, Pyongyang and Khartoum which are urban and large settings.  As I stated prior though, the upcoming style of warfare will be geared I believe to more of what is going on in Afghanistan. I think the U.S. and other nations have done a good job so far with
this yet there could maybe be additional things done. Definitely having small groups of forces spread out is a fantastic idea. I believe that another area to focus on would be units which specialize in guerrilla and counter guerrilla warfare, units whose expertise is in this as well as working with a local populace. The Israelis already have this type of unit called, the Egoz Reconnaissance Unit who specialize in guerrilla and anti guerrilla warfare. Supposedly they were in Lebanon fighting Hezbollah.  Supposedly it is also one of the highest decorated units in the IDF. It would seem that having units who have the capabilities to perform actions such as this would be great. Reasons why would be: They would be another key component of the idea of having small spread out units ( special forces capable or not), They would provide expertise in a conflict type which is and will be prevalent, The possibility of having a unit like this as well have the ability ( through training)  to work with local populations and gain their trust and later acceptance, for quicker action in helping local communities with their needs, being able to gain the trust of the community and hopefully have the community help them discover enemy insurgent combatants.

What do you think about this?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

I think we have the capabilities you are speaking of in the CF already.  Not that I am an expert, but some on here are, and you may be lucky enough to have them weigh in.

What parts of the CF do I think, in what (limited) knowledge I have of what you are talking about IMO?

JTF2, CSOR, combat units with soldiers that are multiple tour types in various ops, our folks with experience in CIMIC, TacPhyOps teams, Int Ops/Os or others who have/will do HUMINT, to name a few.

:2c:

*the difference between theory and reality is experience*

 

[sean m]

Thank you for your post. It is good to know that we have this capabilities in our units. Do you think that it would be a better idea to have a single unit focused on this and only this or not

I think we have the capabilities you are speaking of in the CF already.  Not that I am an expert, but some on here are, and you may be lucky enough to have them weigh in.

What parts of the CF do I think, in what (limited) knowledge I have of what you are talking about IMO?

JTF2, CSOR, combat units with soldiers that are multiple tour types in various ops, our folks with experience in CIMIC, TacPhyOps teams, Int Ops/Os or others who have/will do HUMINT, to name a few.

:2c:

*the difference between theory and reality is experience*

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Thank you for your post. It is good to know that we have this capabilities in our units. Do you think that it would be a better idea to have a single unit focused on this and only this or not

I don't know enough to speak intelligently about it, to be honest.  I have no experience in the area myself, so my opinon wouldn't be worth much.

 

[Edward Campbell]

sean m: as has been explained to you before, by someone else, there almost certainly are a few people here who have the knowledge to answer all your questions, but they are not going to say anything here, on a public Internet forum. Some members, as EITS suggests, can make a few educated guesses - some of them may even be fairly close to the mark. Many others amongst us are, like you, totally uninformed.

You have asked what is essentially the same question over and over and over again. By now it should be obvious that you are not going to get the answers you seek here, on the Army.ca; those who know will not say.

If you really want to know about the intelligence services then there are long, hard routes into that community - in uniform or in civilian clothes. If you make it into the military and if you are suitable for service in the Int Branch then all will become clear, eventually; other routes into the intelligence services, primarily for those with advanced degrees, include CSIS and CSE.

 

[sean m]

I am sorry, I did not mean to bring intelligence up, I just thought that was this unit does was interesting and if people thought the same about it being important for upcoming combat scenarios. Thank you for your post.

sean m: as has been explained to you before, by someone else, there almost certainly are a few people here who have the knowledge to answer all your questions, but they are not going to say anything here, on a public Internet forum. Some members, as EITS suggests, can make a few educated guesses - some of them may even be fairly close to the mark. Many others amongst us are, like you, totally uninformed.

You have asked what is essentially the same question over and over and over again. By now it should be obvious that you are not going to get the answers you seek here, on the Army.ca; those who know will not say.

If you really want to know about the intelligence services then there are long, hard routes into that community - in uniform or in civilian clothes. If you make it into the military and if you are suitable for service in the Int Branch then all will become clear, eventually; other routes into the intelligence services, primarily for those with advanced degrees, include CSIS and CSE.

 

[Loachman]

It doesn't mattter if you mention "Intelligence" or not, sean m. You are still doing the same thing that you did when you started here.

You have been warned several times, including twice formally.

If you want to get into the Intelligence world, you first need to display some, and you are not doing that. You do not seem to learn.

I see no indication that you have even tried the Search Function at all. You may find some information that way, but, as has been pointed out several times now, there are a lot of things that are not going to be discussed here, and, if somebody did, we would delete those posts.

My advice to you, and you really need to take it if you wish to stay here and benefit from this site and its members and also get into and remain in the CF (especially in Int), is to post a lot less and read a lot more. There is only one more formal warning step between you and a ban. If you cannot function here, you are going to have an extremely hard time functioning in the CF in the real world.

People here and in the CF will go to extreme lengths to help you if you are making the effort needed and performing up to expectations, but nobody will lift a finger to help somebody who is heading for failure because of complete inability to learn.

We have seen people start out here like you have, and then clue in and go on to be productive members of this site and succeed in the CF.

We have seen plenty of others who did neither, and flamed out in both.

Your choice.

Decide.

Now.