CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[PrairieFella]

I've been a fan of HH for years. Where we used to live, we had a small store in a mall and a building centre where all the lumber was either inside or under sheds. I've had good luck with their online system as well.

Where we are now, their building centre is meh, but the other store is right out of the olde tyme general store world. It's cluttered, but the staff somehow knows where everything is and they hold to the 'if we ain't got it - it ain't made' philosophy. It's a combination hardware/farm supply store and they even have a wood stove and pellet stove going in season.

I used to go to Fastenal/HD Supply in Barrie for stainless steel hardware. I can get most of what I need at the aforementioned HH store. I haven't had the need to find a fastener supply house locally. Search 'Canadian owned retail fastener companies' and see what comes up for your area.

Does Princess Auto count?

 

[lenaitch]

Does Princess Auto count?

It does; it's based out of Winnipeg. They are good for what they carry. The question was about Fastenal so I assumed fasteners and PA really isn't strong in that area. It all depends on what you are looking for. Busy Bee Tools is Canadian-owned but not a lot of locations.

 

[Good2Golf]

It does; it's based out of Winnipeg. They are good for what they carry. The question was about Fastenal so I assumed fasteners and PA really isn't strong in that area. It all depends on what you are looking for. Busy Bee Tools is Canadian-owned but not a lot of locations.

In Ottawa, the central Princess Auto is right opposite the Busy Bee Tools!

 

[Czech_pivo]

I've asked this question on the LPC election thread and no one has been able to provide a response.

Is anyone aware if Trump has publicly congratulated Carney on his win? Has Trump made any comments about Carney being the new PM (as soon as he's sworn in by the GG)? Has he referred to Carney as 'Governor'?

 

[Remius]

I've asked this question on the LPC election thread and no one has been able to provide a response.

Is anyone aware if Trump has publicly congratulated Carney on his win? Has Trump made any comments about Carney being the new PM (as soon as he's sworn in by the GG)? Has he referred to Carney as 'Governor'?

Has anyone?

I know Ford has. I suspect he’ll get world leader attention once the transition to PM is official.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Does Princess Auto count?

Princess Auto is even more dangerous than Lee Valley; they have a lot of cool stuff at reasonable prices, so why wouldn't I buy a sheet metal press brake, an anvil and a bunch of hydraulics and pneumatics? At least Lee Valley has some sticker shock so I won't drop $60 on a chisel lol.

The other alternative to HD is maybe Rona; they are now owned by a US company, but still operate more or less independently and carry a lot of Canadian products. I'm in the NCR so there is also an independent lumberyard on the Gatineau side by the Casino, but not sure what their minimum is for delivery or how much they carry for plywood etc.

 

[JLB50]

Princess Auto is even more dangerous than Lee Valley; they have a lot of cool stuff at reasonable prices, so why wouldn't I buy a sheet metal press brake, an anvil and a bunch of hydraulics and pneumatics? At least Lee Valley has some sticker shock so I won't drop $60 on a chisel lol.

The other alternative to HD is maybe Rona; they are now owned by a US company, but still operate more or less independently and carry a lot of Canadian products. I'm in the NCR so there is also an independent lumberyard on the Gatineau side by the Casino, but not sure what their minimum is for delivery or how much they carry for plywood etc.

Going into Princess Auto is, for me, almost like being a kid in a candy shop.

 

[foresterab]

We're still part of a trading bloc with Mexico, and they can grow a lot of that too. If greenhouse agriculture makes sense, sure, but I'm not sure how much, economically, it does.

Growing up greenhouses were common for basic vegetable gardens to gain the extra month of growing season needed. But it was always a "nice to have".

Then I saw what was happening in southern ontario and the industrial scale production that mostly was going to Hienz.

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Huge volumes of fresh produce going straight to canned goods - usually - in high density production. No reason this couldn't be done in other portions of the country either (Vancouver, Medicine Hat, Annapolis Valley NB?) to help offset international imports.

I've also never looked at greenhouses the same since seeing those industrial scale ones.

There are also a number of First Nation related greenhouse projects underway, especially in BC, under various alternative power methods (Co-Gen, Geothermal, solar). Apparently it's a mix of provincial and federal initiatives around "Indigenous Food Security & Sovereignty (IFS) Grant"

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[Kirkhill]

Growing up greenhouses were common for basic vegetable gardens to gain the extra month of growing season needed. But it was always a "nice to have".

Then I saw what was happening in southern ontario and the industrial scale production that mostly was going to Hienz.

Exploring Kingsville & Leamington: Ontario's Agricultural Gems

Nestled in the heart of Essex County, Kingsville and Leamington are renowned for their vibrant agricultural landscape, particularly their flourishing greenhouse industry. Here’s a closer look at what makes this area so special and known as Ontario's Agricultural Gems: GREENHOUSE CAPITAL OF...

www.thegrove.rocks

Huge volumes of fresh produce going straight to canned goods - usually - in high density production. No reason this couldn't be done in other portions of the country either (Vancouver, Medicine Hat, Annapolis Valley NB?) to help offset international imports.

I've also never looked at greenhouses the same since seeing those industrial scale ones.

There are also a number of First Nation related greenhouse projects underway, especially in BC, under various alternative power methods (Co-Gen, Geothermal, solar). Apparently it's a mix of provincial and federal initiatives around "Indigenous Food Security & Sovereignty (IFS) Grant"

First Nations Funding for Greenhouses in BC | Slip Tube

Find out how to get First Nations funding for greenhouses and apply for the Indigenous Food Security & Sovereignty Grant today!

www.sliptube.com

A good chunk of Medicine Hat is already glassed over and the concept is spreading. It has also spread to the Lower Mainland market gardens.

It only makes sense if energy (and carbon) costs are low and you are producing high value crops like tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers and, of course, cannabis. Some of the Medicine Hat greenhouses have experimented with raising fish concurrently as most of the production is soil free hydroponics.

 

[brihard]

Thanks gents. This is something I know practically nothing about.

 

[MilEME09]

There's even an operation near Vancouver that grows kiwi in a green house. North of calgary is a greenhouse that does strawberries, they got a grant last year to double their facility to increase output.

 

[AmmoTech90]

A good chunk of Medicine Hat is already glassed over and the concept is spreading. It has also spread to the Lower Mainland market gardens.

Those are actually green houses in Redcliff, just outside Medicine Hat. There are more in Medicine Hat and just outside along Highway 3 (Big Marble Farms if you ever see that on packaging). In Redcliff there is also a coop business, Redhat, that packages local veggies for around the country. The greenhouses close down from Dec to Feb/March to change out growing medium and reduce cost as you still have to heat the place. A few of the green houses have links to Mexico and import cukes and tomatoes to package in Redhat.
The nice thing is that some of the green houses have sell rooms where you can pick up a large bag of veggies for cheap. Especially peppers.

 

[JLB50]

I’m finding all of this to be quite exciting news. Even if the greenhouses can’t provide year-round produce, it would be a huge benefit for Canada, both economically and in quality of life. I even read somewhere that greenhouses are being considered for the Far North for at least part of the year.

 

[Kirkhill]

Those are actually green houses in Redcliff, just outside Medicine Hat. There are more in Medicine Hat and just outside along Highway 3 (Big Marble Farms if you ever see that on packaging). In Redcliff there is also a coop business, Redhat, that packages local veggies for around the country. The greenhouses close down from Dec to Feb/March to change out growing medium and reduce cost as you still have to heat the place. A few of the green houses have links to Mexico and import cukes and tomatoes to package in Redhat.
The nice thing is that some of the green houses have sell rooms where you can pick up a large bag of veggies for cheap. Especially peppers.

You are right. It was actually the ones on Hwy 3 I was looking for. Google Earth skills not what they might be.

 

[Kirkhill]

Those are actually green houses in Redcliff, just outside Medicine Hat. There are more in Medicine Hat and just outside along Highway 3 (Big Marble Farms if you ever see that on packaging). In Redcliff there is also a coop business, Redhat, that packages local veggies for around the country. The greenhouses close down from Dec to Feb/March to change out growing medium and reduce cost as you still have to heat the place. A few of the green houses have links to Mexico and import cukes and tomatoes to package in Redhat.
The nice thing is that some of the green houses have sell rooms where you can pick up a large bag of veggies for cheap. Especially peppers.

Correction time for me - Redcliff, the one I showed previously at 11 O'Clock on the Trans Canada and Big Marble at 6 O'Clock under the SW approach to the airport. And if you look around the area you will find a few other smaller ones. Each circle represents a quarter section of 160 acres, for scale.

Thanks @AmmoTech90

 

[dapaterson]

I’m finding all of this to be quite exciting news. Even if the greenhouses can’t provide year-round produce, it would be a huge benefit for Canada, both economically and in quality of life. I even read somewhere that greenhouses are being considered for the Far North for at least part of the year.

Cheap reliable power is needed. If only Canada had uranium deposits to fuel small reactors.

 

[ModlrMike]

Cheap reliable power is needed. If only Canada had uranium deposits to fuel small reactors.

Yes, and if they use CANDU technology, we don't even need to enrich the uranium, plus we can do in-place refuelling.

 

[PrairieFella]

Cheap reliable power is needed. If only Canada had uranium deposits to fuel small reactors.

If only there was a consortium of Canadian provinces working on exactly that.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

We've been big in the crops under cover game for 100 years here. The biggest greenhouse operation in North America. We do three crops a year. Tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, zucchini, etc. We can strip out a greenhouse and be replanted in a week. We have an insect industry that grows bees, ladybugs and other predatory insects, specifically for green houses. We use produced CO2 by the ton. And electricity, lots and lots of electricity. One thing you get with a concentration of greenhouses is light pollution. Our greenhouses light up the sky and it can be seen 60km away.

We've made progress on the energy front. Some of the operations are turning their organic waste into methane that heats the greenhouses Some operations use no natural gas at all. Completely self sufficient, including their homes on the property.

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Discover why Leamington, Ontario, dominates North America's greenhouse industry, exploring currency arbitrage, labor costs, energy, and logistics.

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[Czech_pivo]

We've been big in the crops under cover game for 100 years here. The biggest greenhouse operation in North America. We do three crops a year. Tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, zucchini, etc. We can strip out a greenhouse and be replanted in a week. We have an insect industry that grows bees, ladybugs and other predatory insects, specifically for green houses. We use produced CO2 by the ton. And electricity, lots and lots of electricity. One thing you get with a concentration of greenhouses is light pollution. Our greenhouses light up the sky and it can be seen 60km away.

We've made progress on the energy front. Some of the operations are turning their organic waste into methane that heats the greenhouses Some operations use no natural gas at all. Completely self sufficient, including their homes on the property.

Why Canada Leads North America in Greenhouse Hubs

Discover why Leamington, Ontario, dominates North America's greenhouse industry, exploring currency arbitrage, labor costs, energy, and logistics.

www.agritecture.com

I noticed those lights on my way to Windsor Thursday evening on the 401 just as I was passing Hwy 77 off to my left.