Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[dapaterson]

Toronto is our financial capital.

If this is a "We're hosting G7, and here's how we're spending Defence dollars" announcement, that makes sense.

 

[Czech_pivo]

No mention of the subs or hint of the final decision on the F35 question.
Looks like HIMARS will be announced, something related to either more LAV’s or a pivot to CV90’s.
I saw wording about Joint Support Ships, so maybe an additional 1, 2 or 3 announced.
Bombardier might be having some good news.

Globe and Mail is reporting this now.

https://archive.is/xvW6A

 

[PrairieFella]

No mention of the subs or hint of the final decision on the F35 question.
Looks like HIMARS will be announced, something related to either more LAV’s or a pivot to CV90’s.
I saw wording about Joint Support Ships, so maybe an additional 1, 2 or 3 announced.
Bombardier might be having some good news.

Oh shit

 

[KTown Cowboy]

15 Billion over 5 years into military pay, that's quite the rumour.

 

[brihard]

No mention of the subs or hint of the final decision on the F35 question.
Looks like HIMARS will be announced, something related to either more LAV’s or a pivot to CV90’s.
I saw wording about Joint Support Ships, so maybe an additional 1, 2 or 3 announced.
Bombardier might be having some good news.

Did someone at Bombardier draw a picture of a Joint Support Ship?

 

[Halifax Tar]

15 Billion over 5 years into military pay, that's quite the rumour.

There will be some upset people on these forums if that's true.

 

[Rainbow1910]

No mention of the subs or hint of the final decision on the F35 question.
Looks like HIMARS will be announced, something related to either more LAV’s or a pivot to CV90’s.
I saw wording about Joint Support Ships, so maybe an additional 1, 2 or 3 announced.
Bombardier might be having some good news.

I have a very hard time seeing the Army procure CV-90 at this point, given the huge adoption of wheeled LAV platforms domestically.

 

[Remius]

There will be some upset people on these forums if that's true.

If it shuts up the entitled whining about it I will certainly be partially pleased.

I’m hoping for far more than band aid solutions and actually see increase in capability.

If both happen I’ll be more than happy.

 

[brihard]

Better paid fodder are still just fodder. Hopefully there’s an increase in pay and amendments to allowances, but hopefully that’s not the crux of the approach.

 

[Seyek]

I'd love extra pay, but more options for higher spec spay for specific trades, housing (PMQs and allowances), childcare, perhaps retention bonuses should all be part of it.

No mention of the subs or hint of the final decision on the F35 question.
Looks like HIMARS will be announced, something related to either more LAV’s or a pivot to CV90’s.
I saw wording about Joint Support Ships, so maybe an additional 1, 2 or 3 announced.
Bombardier might be having some good news.

HIMARS seems an obvious choice, though I was under the impression that was already budgeted. When the F-35 talk started up there was talk of Lockheed offering more work to Canada to keep us on board which seems a win/win, though again it wouldn't be new spending. SHORAD, mortar and SPH LAVs plus there supporting ammo, OPV, CP vehicles seems an obvious and easy win even if they don't cut contracts for them yet.

I haven't seen any mention of CV-90, though I suppose joining in on the European group buy to equip the mech battalions out west is plausible. Maybe instead we'll see a LAV 6 upgrade with what they showed at CANSEC?

Frankly, they could pour money into basics like infrastructure maintenance and build up, sufficient basic personal equipment (sleeping bags, rucksacks, and body armour for the reserves? God forbid....finally replacing tac vests across the CAF?). More pistols and machine guns, more of the new Carl Gs for everyone...actual ammo so people can qualify? Comms and STANO. There's so much basic stuff we don't have enough of we could hit near 2% just properly equipping everyone and establishing proper stocks for spares and training before we touch major systems.

Wildcard - Carney's early meeting with Starmer is to buy one of the QE class carriers, he promises Trump to buy F-35Bs as part of the trade deal. I should make a powerpoint and post it on reddit.

 

[PrairieFella]

There will be some upset people on these forums if that's true.

Works out to about 5% per year for five years allegedly.

 

[Furniture]

Roshel is based in Toronto, might be something to do with them.

 

[PrairieFella]

Roshel is based in Toronto, might be something to do with them.

Maybe the PM read the article about how long it's been taking LUV and said enough is enough haha.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Roshel is based in Toronto, might be something to do with them.

Turns out he's speaking at the Peter Munk building at U of T. Interesting choice of venues, can only assume that he's got some meeting on Bay St and/or with Dougie at Queen's Park, both.

 

[PrairieFella]

Turns out he's speaking at the Peter Munk building at U of T. Interesting choice of venues, can only assume that he's got some meeting on Bay St and/or with Dougie at Queen's Park, both.

The Munk School is one of the preeminent foreign policy schools on the continent. Makes sense to me.

 

[FSTO]

We'll find out a 1000 Eastern.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Works out to about 5% per year for five years allegedly.

If it's true I'll be glad to see it. But I'm fully prepared to not see it.

The Munk School is one of the preeminent foreign policy schools on the continent. Makes sense to me.

Agree. Seems like as good a spot as any.

 

[Rainbow1910]

Globe and Mail is reporting this now.

https://archive.is/xvW6A

It’s also expected that the Canadian Coast Guard, currently a civilian operating agency under the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, will be moved under the Department of National Defence. (The move would mirror the U.S. Coast Guard, which is a branch of the U.S. Armed Forces.) The Canadian Coast Guard’s annual budget is about $2.5-billion, a small fraction of the Department of National Defence’s yearly spending, which exceeds $41-billion. It’s not clear whether moving the Coast Guard under the Canadian military would change it from a civilian fleet to a military fleet.

This is going to go over like a lead balloon with the Coast Guard, their personnel are unionized civilians and loathe being pushed towards enforcement roles, let alone being lumped under DND and all that potentially entails.

 

[Remius]

This is going to go over like a lead balloon with the Coast Guard, their personnel are unionized civilians and loathe being pushed towards enforcement roles, let alone being lumped under DND and all that potentially entails.

Looks like it is happening…

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-canada-to-meet-two-per-cent-nato-1.7555928

 

[YZT580]

This is going to go over like a lead balloon with the Coast Guard, their personnel are unionized civilians and loathe being pushed towards enforcement roles, let alone being lumped under DND and all that potentially entails.

The coast guard is NOT going to be happy about this. Will this mean that Irving will have to revert to the forces design to incorporate the deck guns once again?