Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[daftandbarmy]

Hey we have the coast guard jetty now

But seriously, we need more jetties, and jetties that work would be nice too.

And then there is the quaint 19th C brick infrastructure: Museum Ready!

 

[Seyek]

Again if they don't plan on doing anything to change the CCG, why go through all of the effort to remove them from their more fitting place within DFO and plop them into DND? All of this to try and squeeze CCG under our defence spending expenditure? DFO is going to go ballistic over this change, given that they work the closest with the CCG, use their fleet constantly and partially amalgamated their own enforcement fleet into the larger CCG one many years ago.

I think higher % defence spending (or appearance thereof) is the priority here, not what does the CCG bring to DND and vice versa. This is almost certainly one aspect of trade negotiations and these kinds of details will simply have to be worked out. Understanding it in that context might help ease the transition, but certainly any announcement like this should be accompanied by messaging to the affected people of what it will look like going forward.

I have strong doubts said messaging has been worked out and conveyed. I'm sure there are a lot of CCG group chats blowing up today. BUT - I think it could work out okay if handled properly.

 

[PrairieFella]

Alright lads, best of luck. I heard on good authority the PM will announce twice weekly thundercrunch burgers in the mess! One can dream...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Alright lads, best of luck. I heard on good authority the PM will announce twice weekly thundercrunch burgers in the mess! One can dream...

Equally opportunity for 'Newfie Steak'!

 

[Brad Sallows]

All of this to try and squeeze CCG under our defence spending expenditure?

The answer to your own question.

DFO is going to go ballistic over this change, given that they work the closest with the CCG, use their fleet constantly and partially amalgamated their own enforcement fleet into the larger CCG one many years ago.

If "you'll be sorry" threats are on offer, it's past time to upend their cozy little kingdom. DND already has unionized employees and works with other ministries.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Alright lads, best of luck. I heard on good authority the PM will announce twice weekly thundercrunch burgers in the mess! One can dream...

He'd get my vote forever.

 

[PrairieFella]

He'd get my vote forever.

TGI everyday in the NCOs mess! A fully stocked cabinet with pens and folder clips in the RQ! Thundercrunches AND jalapeño poppers! Cats and dogs living together!

 

[Rainbow1910]

The answer to your own question.

If "you'll be sorry" threats are on offer, it's past time to upend their cozy little kingdom. DND already has unionized employees and works with other ministries.

It's a great attitude to have with dealing with another govt department when you default to "upending their cozy little kingdom" and blowing up the working status quo lol. I will remain skeptical of this change until it is adequately explained, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me as of now.

 

[PrairieFella]

So far so good. Blunt. 2% this year confirmed.

 

[Brad Sallows]

It's a great attitude to have with dealing with another govt department when you default to "upending their cozy little kingdom" and blowing up the working status quo lol. I will remain skeptical of this change until it is adequately explained, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me as of now.

If they're as spoiled and arrogant as you suggest such that they could not work under DND because of the mere association with the CAF and would commence job actions and other obstructionism, they've earned my intolerant curmudgeonly disdain.

 

[PrairieFella]

For those that can't speak it, in French he's saying investing in small arms, infrastructure.

 

[QV]

So far so good. Blunt. 2% this year confirmed.

When do I get to read a collective 'thank-you' to #47?

Without Trump putting Canada on notice the LPC would never be doing this.

 

[PrairieFella]

When do I get to read a collective 'thank-you' to #47?

Without Trump putting Canada on notice the LPC would never be doing this.

Thanks for being a piece of shit to your allies and selling out to the Russkis, Donny! Enjoy the crypto corruption money. XOXO.

Edit: sorry Donny, I forgot to say thank you for trying to implode our economy and annex us. Hugs and kisses.

 

[Underway]

When do I get to read a collective 'thank-you' to #47?

Without Trump putting Canada on notice the LPC would never be doing this.

When you do a "Thank you Trudeau" for Transmountain.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I think you'd find lots of us older salts would be happy to move over to CG positions if the current crop of coasties doesn't like their new department and wants to try new pastures.

 

[Remius]

I think you'd find lots of us older salts would be happy to move over to CG positions if the current crop of coasties doesn't like their new department and wants to try new pastures.

Happens at other departments under DND. Win win.

 

[MilEME09]

and here we go, Carney just announced 2% this year

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932056251841511785

 

[daftandbarmy]

and here we go, Carney just announced 2% this year

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932056251841511785

 

[Rainbow1910]

If they're as spoiled and arrogant as you suggest such that they could not work under DND because of the mere association with the CAF and would commence job actions and other obstructionism, they've earned my intolerant curmudgeonly disdain.

I don't particularly see it as being spoiled or arrogant, the best way I could see to explain it would be similar to the CAF amalgamation. The CCG has its own storied history that reaches back even before the founding of the RCN and a distinct civilian culture that goes alongside that more recently. Many people joined the CCG to help people, undertake their search & rescue, navigation upkeep, pollution control, etc and view the pushing of armed enforcement onto the organization as undermining these roles internally and in the eyes of the public. The organization and its staff do not want to be eaten up into the larger DND/RCN apparatus, especially given how poor the reputation of the Department and especially its treatment of their own employees.

A lot of the CCG employees I've spoken to are typically happy they aren't in the Navy and show no interest on being pushed in that direction. One shouldn't be surprised if you walk into a room, tell everybody that their jobs are potentially changing to their polar opposite and not expect them to be unhappy. Especially as they have a proper union, they are entirely justified to fight changes they view as infringing upon their livelihoods if that is viewed as jeopardizing it. The Govt has to respect their organizations and unlike the CAF, they can't just mindlessly dictate due to the presence of the union.

Perhaps little will end up changing at the end of the day, but it makes me circle back around then to why do all of this if so.

 

[Czech_pivo]

So his speech just wrapped up and no specifics at all were discussed. I guess the Min of D will take on the roll of Chief Elf to distribute the gifts individually to the children.