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Trump administration 2024-2028

Eaglelord17 said:
I never understood how he had veterans groups on his side to begin with. The man is anti-military to the core. Insulting combat vets, very likely faked his medical to avoid doing his service in Vietnam, pardoning war criminals and then ordering the military to take them back, etc.
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A lot of Veteran groups were deeply pissed at the Democrats. In their view Trump was the least worse option and I think that holds true for many in the US. Most don't think or know about foreign relations or trade agreements and don't get how those things can bit the US.
 
daftandbarmy said:
Definitely a FAFO moment... and a damned good shot IMHO
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Damned casual attitude for FAing, hand in pocket and using his phone probably videoing whatever is happening below.

A grainy twenty second clip doesn't provide a lot of context. What about the twenty seconds before, or the sixty seconds, what would that show? Despite a claim of "footage from multiple civilian perspectives in Los Angeles" in the caption to the clip, that's the only footage he's posted.

But perhaps he comes with a bias.
. . . a former Marine Corps infantry machine gunner and Purple Heart recipient with 8 years of experience in ground combat operations across multiple combat deployments in support of the Global War on Terror. He is currently based in Texas and specializes in combat footage analysis and digital marketing.
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Tried finding additional film of that particular incident, but googling "LA riot rooftop 2025" mostly brings up references to the idiot son of Trump.
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Trump Jr. reshares 'Rooftop Korean' meme as protests over immigration crackdown rage in LA

As protests against the Donald Trump administration’s immigration crackdown continued for a fourth day in Los Angeles, Donald Trump Jr., the eldest son of the president, reposted a photo of a Korean person holding a gun on a rooftop.
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Does the guy hit by the round look Asian?
 
brihard said:
It certainly can. Less lethal training emphasizes aim points. But sometimes you miss.
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True enough. Sometimes you zig and they zag.

Still not sure how a less-than-lethal round to a major muscle group is justified on someone a fair distance away filming the action on a cell phone. It is a short video missing context beforehand, though I still have a tough time justifying that force, unless the officer missed his target completely and hit the wrong guy. I am unfamiliar with the accuracy of those weapons so have no idea if the officer was shooting from a reasonable distance. I’m open to being educated though.
 
Former Guardsman and Member of Congress Adam Kinzinger has some thoughts on the contradictions of a state controlled militia under the Second Amendment that can be easily federalized against the state’s wishes.

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A Well-Regulated Illusion

Trump, Newsom, and the Federalized Guard: Who Really Commands the “Militia”?
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The contrast in statements between what the President said, and what the Army spokesperson and Secret Service said is... something. At least there are still some adults in the room for now.

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Trump warns 'any' protesters at military parade will be 'met with heavy force'

President Donald Trump threatened to use force against those who protest the military parade honoring the 250th anniversary of the Army on Saturday, June 14.
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KevinB said:
Brad, I think you are missing the Venn Diagram where a significant portion the MAGA supporters are diametrically opposed to US Military personnel conducting operations (even physically site security if it is off post ) CONUS.

This is where you get things like the Army of Texas and California…
Because no one at the grass roots actually likes Fed Gov overreach even when it’s against the other side.
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Idk man, MAGAs are so far up the President's ass they'll use the time honoured mental justifications to convince themselves regular Marines in the streets is a good thing, they've already started. It was never about liberty for them, it was always about power.
 
HavokFour said:
The contrast in statements between what the President said, and what the Army spokesperson and Secret Service said is... something. At least there are still some adults in the room for now.

abcnews.go.com

Trump warns 'any' protesters at military parade will be 'met with heavy force'

President Donald Trump threatened to use force against those who protest the military parade honoring the 250th anniversary of the Army on Saturday, June 14.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
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How powerful would the imagery be if a few protesters just ran out onto the route and simply stood in front of an Abrams? It wouldn’t last long, but they only need a photo.
 
PrairieFella said:
Idk man, MAGAs are so far up the President's ass they'll use the time honoured mental justifications to convince themselves regular Marines in the streets is a good thing, they've already started. It was never about liberty for them, it was always about power.
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Well apparently some of the USMC in 29 Palms are refusing to move out citing it as an illegal order that would violate Posse Comittatus, apparently an 0-6 Colonel is demanding JAG review before he agrees to move the Regiment

Then on the veteran side
https://twitter.com/x/status/1932454782553276599

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932243102640513523
 
KevinB said:
Well apparently some of the USMC in 29 Palms are refusing to move out citing it as an illegal order that would violate Posse Comittatus, apparently an 0-6 Colonel is demanding JAG review before he agrees to move the Regiment

Then on the veteran side
https://twitter.com/x/status/1932454782553276599

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932243102640513523
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I hope it works out. I really do. I have better things to do than get deployed on a peacekeeping mission in the States. 😂
 
I find it highly interesting that the text of the NG mobilization order from the President does not make mention of any specific state or city, and that the number be no less than 2000, but also does not state a maximum. This leaves the door open for further mobilizations in other places IMHO.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE


THE ATTORNEY GENERAL


THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY


SUBJECT: Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions


Numerous incidents of violence and disorder have recently occurred and threaten to continue in response to the enforcement of Federal law by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions and supporting the faithful execution of Federal immigration laws. In addition, violent protests threaten the security of and significant damage to Federal immigration detention facilities and other Federal property. To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.


In light of these incidents and credible threats of continued violence, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. 12406 to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations. Further, I direct and delegate actions as necessary for the Secretary of Defense to coordinate with the Governors of the States and the National Guard Bureau in identifying and ordering into Federal service the appropriate members and units of the National Guard under this authority. The members and units of the National Guard called into Federal service shall be at least 2,000 National Guard personnel and the duration of duty shall be for 60 days or at the discretion of the Secretary of Defense. In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.


To carry out this mission, the deployed military personnel may perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary to ensure the protection and safety of Federal personnel and property The Secretary of Defense shall consult with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security prior to withdrawing any personnel from any location to which they are sent. The Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security may delegate to subordinate officials of their respective Departments any of the authorities conferred upon them by this memorandum.


DONALD J. TRUMP
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ModlrMike said:
I find it highly interesting that the text of the NG mobilization order from the President does not make mention of any specific state or city, and that the number be no less than 2000, but also does not state a maximum. This leaves the door open for further mobilizations IMHO.
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I've read analysts say that was probably intentional to leave deployments on thr 14th nationally for the No Kings Protests.
 
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