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Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

boredtoon said:
Not quite, Tables are held at brigade. The unit has SF Kits and C2 sights. We for sure use the SF kits and C2 for famil every year (Mark and lay). But without the tables, we can't do the famil on map and table every year, except for theory lessons.



Not sure how they were re-acquired. But I'm pretty sure it was a case of "we were told to get rid of these, but we're just going to put them in the basement instead".
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I did that with our 51 Pattern webbing and when we ran our SYEP course, we were able to issue them webbing for field exercises, as the system had no extra 82pattern or 64pat webbing.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
I did that with our 51 Pattern webbing and when we ran our SYEP course, we were able to issue them webbing for field exercises, as the system had no extra 82pattern or 64pat webbing.
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And we wore 51 Patt bits and pieces with both the 82 and 64 patt stuff to make it useable.

Call it a webbing Smorgasbord ;)

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Halifax Tar said:
I liked the 82 pattern webbing.

If I could get one dyed blaze orange it would make a great day hunt kit.
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Outside of the yoke, and changing from Bren gunner mag pouches to C1 and then C7 mag pouches, the ‘82 Pattern webbing was really just ‘51 pattern webbing made by an idiot.

The plastic tabs constantly broke (both the attachment to the belt, and the pouch closure), and the ‘secondary’ Velcro tab attachment became the primary…

At least better in concept than the ‘64 that only had the Velcro

But a very good example of the CAF not doing any decent trials for feedback as they would have showed this early.
 
KevinB said:
Outside of the yoke, and changing from Bren gunner mag pouches to C1 and then C7 mag pouches, the ‘82 Pattern webbing was really just ‘51 pattern webbing made by an idiot.

The plastic tabs constantly broke (both the attachment to the belt, and the pouch closure), and the ‘secondary’ Velcro tab attachment became the primary…

At least better in concept than the ‘64 that only had the Velcro

But a very good example of the CAF not doing any decent trials for feedback as they would have showed this early.
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So what you're saying is you didn't like it ?
 
KevinB said:
Outside of the yoke, and changing from Bren gunner mag pouches to C1 and then C7 mag pouches, the ‘82 Pattern webbing was really just ‘51 pattern webbing made by an idiot.

The plastic tabs constantly broke (both the attachment to the belt, and the pouch closure), and the ‘secondary’ Velcro tab attachment became the primary…

At least better in concept than the ‘64 that only had the Velcro

But a very good example of the CAF not doing any decent trials for feedback as they would have showed this early.
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I wore the British 58 pattern for years. It was awful too, in its own special way. I still carry 'scars of glory' from various webbing burns.

It's like the GWOT waved a magic wand over all the crap gear out there and magically improved it in a variety of ways.
 
I've come to the conclusion that there are two types of web gear users: grunts - for whom nothing is good enough; and other-then-grunts - who couldn't care less and are mostly fine with whatever they're given. The reason for both of those is obvious.

I had 51 pattern webbing as a young reservist which did the job because I didn't know any better. Oh yeah. It came with the old Brit pattern helmet. The 64 pattern, where I immediately threw the C2 mag chest carrier into the furthest corner of my basement, I supplemented with a 51 pattern bren pouch to my belt for carrying cans of beer or soft drinks as applicable and my old 51 pattern small pack for my rain gear and other shit that I couldn't stuff into my mess tin carrier after throwing away the mess tins. My Melmac plate and cup went into my gas mask carrier. I learned to hate the universal pattern 68 rucksack which, with a PRC 25/77 added to it (FOO, remember) became a torture device.

By the time the 82 came out I was back in the reserves, I was leading a small rifle company that liked playing pirates with their own gear. There was a moment of excitement as it came out and then everyone was back to wanting to adapt it with their own drop pouches or whatnot. It was more a fashion statement thing than practicality. I do have some pictures of me with my 82 pattern in the field after I went JAG. It did the job which wasn't too strenuous. Like I said for non-grunts it's not a biggie what you wear - as long as you can get into the truck with it on.

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