Pipelines, energy and natural resources

[Kirkhill]

Incinerators.....please!

The flue gases can be managed. Personally I like peat bogs.

5,000-tonnes-a-day incinerator doubles as public park ring — When waste becomes spectacle

A 5,000-tonne-a-day incinerator in Asia turns trash into treasure, doubling as a public park and energy hub that redefines waste and urban beauty.

www.eldiario24.com

Flue Gas Scrubber

Flue Gas Scrubber is a true multifunction device that combines near-zero air emission control with versatile heat recovery possibilities.

www.valmet.com

https://www.mla.com.au/contentassets/8b5da29e184541d0afbce56d860bc0f4/m.887_final_report.pdf

And the neat thing about using peat moss as a filter is that you can dry it witth waste heat, burn it as a fuel, harvest the heat as energy and the heavy metals they captured from the flue gas are captured in the ash.

 

[HavokFour]

Incinerators.....please!

The flue gases can be managed. Personally I like peat bogs.

5,000-tonnes-a-day incinerator doubles as public park ring — When waste becomes spectacle

A 5,000-tonne-a-day incinerator in Asia turns trash into treasure, doubling as a public park and energy hub that redefines waste and urban beauty.

www.eldiario24.com

Flue Gas Scrubber

Flue Gas Scrubber is a true multifunction device that combines near-zero air emission control with versatile heat recovery possibilities.

www.valmet.com

https://www.mla.com.au/contentassets/8b5da29e184541d0afbce56d860bc0f4/m.887_final_report.pdf

And the neat thing about using peat moss as a filter is that you can dry it witth waste heat, burn it as a fuel, harvest the heat as energy and the heavy metals they captured from the flue gas are captured in the ash.

Ottawa could really use one of those. Sadly I think city council is just going to opt for another place to bury trash.

 

[Kirkhill]

Ottawa could really use one of those. Sadly I think city council is just going to opt for another place to bury trash.

A lot of Canadian cities could use one of them.

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[YZT580]

Incinerators.....please!

The flue gases can be managed. Personally I like peat bogs.

5,000-tonnes-a-day incinerator doubles as public park ring — When waste becomes spectacle

A 5,000-tonne-a-day incinerator in Asia turns trash into treasure, doubling as a public park and energy hub that redefines waste and urban beauty.

www.eldiario24.com

Flue Gas Scrubber

Flue Gas Scrubber is a true multifunction device that combines near-zero air emission control with versatile heat recovery possibilities.

www.valmet.com

https://www.mla.com.au/contentassets/8b5da29e184541d0afbce56d860bc0f4/m.887_final_report.pdf

And the neat thing about using peat moss as a filter is that you can dry it witth waste heat, burn it as a fuel, harvest the heat as energy and the heavy metals they captured from the flue gas are captured in the ash.

It will never happen. David Suzuki would mobilize the entire city of Toronto plus Vancouver. No politician could tolerate the heat even if it is the right thing to do

 

[lenaitch]

Incineration is political Kryptonite. Even with high-tech, high-temperature 'plasma' burners, people equate them with the backyard burn barrel.

One problem with using peat bogs as a 'filter' is they are nowhere near where the source of most of the waste is.

 

[Kirkhill]

Incineration is political Kryptonite. Even with high-tech, high-temperature 'plasma' burners, people equate them with the backyard burn barrel.

One problem with using peat bogs as a 'filter' is they are nowhere near where the source of most of the waste is.

I agree with you on the kryptonite.

But we now have a generation of folks calling for a nuclear reactor in every backyard. That hasn't been seen since the 1950s.

And we do have lots of incinerating peers to emulate. Education/propaganda works. It is what both killed and resurrected the nukes and killed the urban power plant.

As to the peatbogs, I sold peatbogs.
They were alternatives, and adjuncts, to chemical scrubbers. They were containerized and layered and the peat was replaced at regular intervals. The peat was brought to the plant and treated like any other reagent or input.

 

[lenaitch]

I agree with you on the kryptonite.

But we now have a generation of folks calling for a nuclear reactor in every backyard. That hasn't been seen since the 1950s.

And we do have lots of incinerating peers to emulate. Education/propaganda works. It is what both killed and resurrected the nukes and killed the urban power plant.

As to the peatbogs, I sold peatbogs.
They were alternatives, and adjuncts, to chemical scrubbers. They were containerized and layered and the peat was replaced at regular intervals. The peat was brought to the plant and treated like any other reagent or input.

There's still a sizable bloc, at least in the GTA, that is against the nukes they have and the ones proposed. 'Wind and solar are the future'.

Perhaps the reason there has been a general quietness about nuclear, at least in the West, is the stagnant nature of the industry. When is the last time one was commissioned?

Man, I think it would take a lot of lipstick to pretty up an incinerator to the general public.

I wasn't aware that there was commercial peat industry beyond gardening. Even within that industry, there is much debate about its continued use because of the ecological impact.

 

[Kirkhill]

There's still a sizable bloc, at least in the GTA, that is against the nukes they have and the ones proposed. 'Wind and solar are the future'.

Perhaps the reason there has been a general quietness about nuclear, at least in the West, is the stagnant nature of the industry. When is the last time one was commissioned?

Man, I think it would take a lot of lipstick to pretty up an incinerator to the general public.

I wasn't aware that there was commercial peat industry beyond gardening. Even within that industry, there is much debate about its continued use because of the ecological impact.

All true. But every course of action attracts detractors. And things do change over time.

My boomers had a strong anti-nuke contingent. I was one of the pro-nuke crowd. Since then, I am told I have survived three more generations: X, Y(Millenials), and Z and am working on four, Alpha.

And I know for a fact they don't think like real people.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Meanwhile on the wet and wacky coast, with it's hate on for domestic NG heating homes and cooking dinner. I actually agree with the stance on crypto mining.

BC Hydro permanently bans cryptocurrency mining to protect power supply | Urbanized

The B.C. government has made its temporary ban on new cryptocurrency mining connections to BC Hydro's electrical grid permanent.

dailyhive.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Bill Gates sounding like Bjorn Lomborg. There are worse things than climate change, like lack of energy and food. Cold kills more than heat....

Bill Gates makes major climate change reversal after years of doomerism: ‘People will be able to live and thrive’

Bill Gates, who has sunk billions on initiatives ostensibly meant to combat global warming, penned a lengthy blog urging a shift away from the “doomsday outlook.”

nypost.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

There they go...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sinclar-forest-products-job-losses-9.6950625

What 45-per-cent tariffs mean for B.C.’s forest sector - UBC News

Tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber have surged to 45 per cent, putting B.C.’s forest sector under extreme pressure. UBC forestry expert Harry Nelson explains what’s driving the dispute and what it could mean for mills, workers and communities.

news.ubc.ca

West Fraser's US$204 million loss hints at B.C. forest sector challenges

West Fraser lost more money than expected, even before accounting for the payment of duties under the Canada/U.S. softwood lumber dispute

vancouversun.com

 

[Cloud Cover]

And yet Tolko is hiring in Spallumcheen, I see trainloads of milled lumber leaving the mill everyday. Woodtone (red cedar deck and post (very big $$)) is still walking the streets with a hook to grab anybody with a pulse? I don’t understand that industry.

 

[daftandbarmy]

And yet Tolko is hiring in Spallumcheen, I see trainloads of milled lumber leaving the mill everyday. Woodtone (red cedar deck and post (very big $$)) is still walking the streets with a hook to grab anybody with a pulse? I don’t understand that industry.

Looks like they're focusing on the specialty markets...

Province giving Tolko $8-million to expand Heffley Creek mill in Kamloops​

Province giving Tolko $8-million to expand Heffley Creek mill in Kamloops

The B.C. Government is giving Tolko Industries up to $8 million, allowing it to expand its Heffley Creek opera...

www.radionl.com

 

[Brad Sallows]

If BC forestry is in trouble, tariffs were probably only the tipping point. Homegrown political decisions, particularly by the provincial government, reduced the ability of companies to respond to fiscal stress. Remove enough of anyone's fiscal freedom of manoeuvre and eventually they won't be able to survive a new stressor. I suspect the NDP over-milked the cow, trying to feed all their anti-forestry constituencies, and didn't think about how easy they were making it to destabilize the entire industry.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Whelp... there goes Canada's only refinery on this coast...

Burnaby, B.C., oil refinery to fall under U.S. control in $9.1B deal​

British Columbia’s largest oil refinery is set to fall under U.S. control this week with the expected takeover of Canadian fuel refiner and retailer Parkland Corporation by American fuel giant Sunoco.

The Parkland refinery in Burnaby, one of only two remaining refineries in B.C., will be sold as part of a US$9.1-billion deal that is expected to close on Oct. 31, according to the Calgary-based company’s latest quarterly earnings report.

Burnaby, B.C., oil refinery to fall under U.S. control in $9.1B deal

British Columbia’s largest oil refinery is set to fall under U.S. control this week with the expected takeover of Canadian fuel refiner and retailer Parkland Corporation by American fuel giant Sunoco.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Cloud Cover]

If BC forestry is in trouble, tariffs were probably only the tipping point. Homegrown political decisions, particularly by the provincial government, reduced the ability of companies to respond to fiscal stress. Remove enough of anyone's fiscal freedom of manoeuvre and eventually they won't be able to survive a new stressor. I suspect the NDP over-milked the cow, trying to feed all their anti-forestry constituencies, and didn't think about how easy they were making it to destabilize the entire industry.

Perhaps the NDP are picking the companies they want to survive. Tolko is very much under FN control. I mean why else pump 8 million tax dollars into an industry that is shuttering everywhere else in BC. I’ve heard that by next year there won’t be a single operating mill east of the Arrow Lakes in BC, and that the forest service roads are being closed off to the public by the province.

 

[Kirkhill]

Whelp... there goes Canada's only refinery on this coast...

Burnaby, B.C., oil refinery to fall under U.S. control in $9.1B deal​

British Columbia’s largest oil refinery is set to fall under U.S. control this week with the expected takeover of Canadian fuel refiner and retailer Parkland Corporation by American fuel giant Sunoco.

The Parkland refinery in Burnaby, one of only two remaining refineries in B.C., will be sold as part of a US$9.1-billion deal that is expected to close on Oct. 31, according to the Calgary-based company’s latest quarterly earnings report.

Burnaby, B.C., oil refinery to fall under U.S. control in $9.1B deal

British Columbia’s largest oil refinery is set to fall under U.S. control this week with the expected takeover of Canadian fuel refiner and retailer Parkland Corporation by American fuel giant Sunoco.

www.ctvnews.ca

Carney is facing his government falling on this budget.

If he gives us our pipeline then he will lose Quebec to the Bloc and BC to the NDP. And he won't pick up much in terms of prairie votes. And oil is entirely secondary to his world view.

He has already signalled that he is happy to keep the oil flowing to the US. A new Keystone is less problematic than a new Northern Gateway. Selling Burnaby to the Yanks is probably easy for him to justify. After all the oil industry is dying... might as well leave Trump with the stranded assets.

What most easterners don't realize is that as far as Albertans are concerned it is American money that created their prosperity since Leduc.

He isn't doing much to make Canada an attractive proposition.



Canada east is known for foreclosing on depression era farms and the National Energy Policy.


TMX which feeds Burnaby also feeds Anacortes. Burnaby has been driving the cost of Alberta oil up in the US. By buying Burnaby the Yanks can plug that leak. Shut down Burnaby and direct that flow to Anacortes. No competition for Alberta oil.

It would support a major expansion at Anacortes....

 

[Colin Parkinson]

That refinery supplies about 80% of the fuels for SW BC, prior to TMX, 40% of the feedstock went to the US. Parkland also includes all the Chevron Stations in BC.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Seems a big chunk of the deal is Parklands US assets and the convivence store side of things, which is taking a hit right now.

Parkland stumbles in the US as Sunoco deal nears finish line

With its $9.1 billion sale to Sunoco expected to close this week, the Canadian retailer reported yet another quarter during which its U.S. fuel and c-store revenues plummeted.

www.cstoredive.com