EW, Drones and Jamming

[ytz]

Funny I wonder how a large business/ corporation works when a person who does not know the job runs the show.

Companies actually do hire board members and executives from other fields. And it can pay off spectacularly. For example, Apple famously hires a fashion executive with zero experience in electronics to design their retail strategy. Their stores are now some of the highest grossing stores per square foot around.

Advocating is one thing, understanding what you are advocating for is for more important. For most staff Officers it is another check in the box until they move onto another job elsewhere. How much knowledge and passion goes into what they do.
Kind of like having the Airforce Pilot advocating for more Infantry, yup we need them to dig our trenches for us during WASF exercises.

You see it as ticking off a checkbox. Most of see it as learning what others do to ensure that officers have a broad understanding of the institution as they go up in rank.

On the topic at hand, EW was ignores institution wide. That's why there's a 2 leaf there. They aren't there to be the EW expert. They are there to make sure the EW experts are listened to.

I know PS who wouldn't work on the weekend when that is what was required of their job role.
How are those people doing in Quebec who do the distribution of parts along with QC etc. I think they are contractors not PS employees.

It's unfortunate that you had that experience, but procurement is a lot more than what QETE or NDQAR does for parts, which itself is not relevant to buying new kit (the topic here). And yes, that will have to be fixed. But again, policy more than people. If those organizations had the budgets and authorities, somebody would be there on the weekend to make sure incoming items are actioned immediately.

 

[childs56]

Companies actually do hire board members and executives from other fields. And it can pay off spectacularly. For example, Apple famously hires a fashion executive with zero experience in electronics to design their retail strategy. Their stores are now some of the highest grossing stores per square foot around.

Oh you mean they hired a marketing expert to market their product. Wow so why couldn't a expert in nuclear fission not be their marketing lead. Use advice from from their work force to be successful?

You see it as ticking off a checkbox. Most of see it as learning what others do to ensure that officers have a broad understanding of the institution as they go up in rank.

Practical application is a check in the box for their next promotion/ postion/appointment. Call it what you want for the majority of the flag staff it is what it is.

On the topic at hand, EW was ignores institution wide. That's why there's a 2 leaf there. They aren't there to be the EW expert. They are there to make sure the EW experts are listened to.

Ahh ahhh. Keep telling yourself that. In the real world if the boss is not a expert in the field nobody cares what your opinion is. That is why the boss is hired and their hire executives. But the boss needs to have experience in the field or they often are not successful.
The Canadian Armed Forces is full of failed attempts to change and better themselves. It is because they keep putting untrained/unqualified People to fill roles that are above their actual knowledge level.
Those same people go onto being the consultants and experts in defence industry that advises our Government and Military on its needs and wants. Often are wrong because they dont actually have the experience and nor qualifications. But what they do bring are connections to those who sign the bills.

It's unfortunate that you had that experience, but procurement is a lot more than what QETE or NDQAR does for parts, which itself is not relevant to buying new kit (the topic here). And yes, that will have to be fixed. But again, policy more than people. If those organizations had the budgets and authorities, somebody would be there on the weekend to make sure incoming items are actioned immediately.

Lol those making the actual decisions and recommendations are lobbyists. Nothing more nothing less. They are the experts in how do I line my pockets and the pockets of those who Will sign off so we can get the contract.
If you think anything else at this time I feel sorry for you.
$325,000,000 to buy 85 wreckers. Tell me we have experts in charge without telling my they are in over their heads and or someone isn't lining their pockets with our tax dollars? Plus the additional $28.9 service agreement.
Please save the niche market crap and they come with armored cabs.

 

[Lumber]

Oh you mean they hired a marketing expert to market their product. Wow so why couldn't a expert in nuclear fission not be their marketing lead. Use advice from from their work force to be successful?

Practical application is a check in the box for their next promotion/ postion/appointment. Call it what you want for the majority of the flag staff it is what it is.

Ahh ahhh. Keep telling yourself that. In the real world if the boss is not a expert in the field nobody cares what your opinion is. That is why the boss is hired and their hire executives. But the boss needs to have experience in the field or they often are not successful.
The Canadian Armed Forces is full of failed attempts to change and better themselves. It is because they keep putting untrained/unqualified People to fill roles that are above their actual knowledge level.
Those same people go onto being the consultants and experts in defence industry that advises our Government and Military on its needs and wants. Often are wrong because they dont actually have the experience and nor qualifications. But what they do bring are connections to those who sign the bills.

Lol those making the actual decisions and recommendations are lobbyists. Nothing more nothing less. They are the experts in how do I line my pockets and the pockets of those who Will sign off so we can get the contract.
If you think anything else at this time I feel sorry for you.
$325,000,000 to buy 85 wreckers. Tell me we have experts in charge without telling my they are in over their heads and or someone isn't lining their pockets with our tax dollars? Plus the additional $28.9 service agreement.
Please save the niche market crap and they come with armored cabs.

Tell me you know nothing about both executive leadership nor defence procurement without telling me you know nothing about both executive leadership nor defence procurement...

 

[childs56]

Tell me you know nothing about both executive leadership nor defence procurement without telling me you know nothing about both executive leadership nor defence procurement...

Lol successful large, medium and small companies in Canada with President's with out direct experience in the market they operate in Go?
Make it even more difficult that are not heavily subsidized by the Federal and Provincial governments.

Defence procurement is always a political game. But when the wrong equipment and or high cost over runs that were foreseen by all but the people invovled, we need a better way.