Pipelines, energy and natural resources

[Czech_pivo]

They won't. Carney needs the poison pills to maintain his pro-green position whilst appearing to want to open Canada up for development. He is from the same cloth as Trudeau just a whole lot brighter

You’re right, a pro business guy who ran a multi billion corporation is totally against development in Canada.

 

[Kirkhill]

My guess is the ball is in Danielle's court.

Her team includes

Pathways (Suncor, Imperial, ConocoPhillips, Cenovus, Canadian Natural)
Pipeline advisors (Enbridge, Trans Mountain, Southbow)

Indigenous participants
Dave Lamouche, President of the Métis Settlement General Council (Alberta-based).
Chief George Arcand Jr. of the Alexander First Nation.
Chief Tony Alexis of the Alexis Nakota Sioux Nation.
Chief Cody Thomas of the Enoch Cree Nation.
Chief Kelsey Jacko of the Cold Lake First Nation.
Chief Delbert Wapass of the Thunderchild First Nation (Saskatchewan).
Chris Sankey, a former Lax Kw'alaams councillor from British Columbia.

Reasonable to expect support from
Indian Resource Council
Indigenous Resource Network
National Coalition of Chiefs
and beneficiaries of the Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation as well as the Saskatchewan Indigenous Investment Finance Corporation and the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

Danielle has until July 1 2026 to submit her Major Project submission.

I find it unlikely that she would have been as happy as she was if her advisory group weren't as up to speed with the prospects as she was.

I expect some sort of indication early in the New Year.

I also expect that the carbon tax will be rebated back to the industry in the form of investment in the CCS system and increased oil productivity systems.

 

[Kirkhill]

Interesting player

Chris Sankey: Tanker ban a detriment to Indigenous prosperity

The Liberals can repair damage by fast tracking Alberta proposal for a pipeline

nationalpost.com

Chris Sankey - Forward Summit

Speaker Chris Sankey Principal Owner and PresidentBlackfish Enterprises Meet Chris: Chris is Principal owner and President at Blackfish Enterprises. A company that provides strategic advice, direction and planning to Indigenous Communities and Industry Stakeholders, both domestically and...

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Chris Sankey Nominated in North Coast-Haida Gwaii - Conservative Party of BC | Conservative Party of British Columbia

About Chris Sankey is a proud member of the Tsimshian community of Lax Kw’ Alaams, “Island of Roses”, near Prince Rupert, BC. His ancestral name is W’Tsin (House of W’Tsin), meaning “A person who enters quietly,” and he also holds the name Wudiumas, meaning “Sunrise to sunset.” His crest is...

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Path Forward – Discussion With Chris Sankey — Indigenous Partnerships Success Showcase

How can companies and Indigenous communities move deals forward? At IPSS 2023, Chris Sankey of Blackfish Enterprises, which specializes in Indigenous relations, stakeholder engagement and government affairs, offered advice gleaned from his years involved with negotiations.

www.indigenoussuccess.ca

And another one

Calvin Helin | Official Website

calvinhelin.com

And his brother, John, past Mayor of Lax Kw'alaams.

Lax Kw’alaams Council applauds the Canadian senate’s recommendation against a proposed oil tanker moratorium – Lax Kw'alaams Band

laxkwalaams.ca

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Meanwhile

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ksi-lisims-lng-prince-rupert-northwest-bc-legal-challenge-first-nations-9.6950770

 

[YZT580]

You’re right, a pro business guy who ran a multi billion corporation is totally against development in Canada.

I don't know how he squares his business background with his stated opposition to pipelines and oil but I haven't seen or read of any indication that he has mellowed at all. His business acumen dam near bankrupted England. They couldn't get rid of him fast enough Although I didn't follow it much, I did not notice any rhetoric emerging from Brazil to suggest that Canada's stance on oil had changed. I haven't seen any news regarding the development of Churchill as an alternate possibility for exporting oil. Forcing the oil companies to develop a viable Carbon capture system is potentially a brick wall as the technologies are in their infancy and unproven. He has stated that the Indigenous folks must be onside as must the government of B.C. in order for a pipeline to happen. So I don't hold out a lot of hope for any construction to follow his good news announcement. For Canada's sake, I hope I am wrong.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I don't know how he squares his business background with his stated opposition to pipelines and oil but I haven't seen or read of any indication that he has mellowed at all. His business acumen dam near bankrupted England. They couldn't get rid of him fast enough Although I didn't follow it much, I did not notice any rhetoric emerging from Brazil to suggest that Canada's stance on oil had changed. I haven't seen any news regarding the development of Churchill as an alternate possibility for exporting oil. Forcing the oil companies to develop a viable Carbon capture system is potentially a brick wall as the technologies are in their infancy and unproven. He has stated that the Indigenous folks must be onside as must the government of B.C. in order for a pipeline to happen. So I don't hold out a lot of hope for any construction to follow his good news announcement. For Canada's sake, I hope I am wrong.

I don’t think you can run a pipeline only part of the year to Churchill.

 

[Kirkhill]

I don’t think you can run a pipeline only part of the year to Churchill.

A railway maybe.

 

[childs56]

I don’t think you can run a pipeline only part of the year to Churchill.

Why not?
You could build a large tank farm for storage. Ship during the open water season and low rate stockpile during ice up.

 

[MilEME09]

National energy corridors a solution or a multibillion-dollar road to nowhere?

Plans for nation-spanning pipelines and power lines will either unite the country or cause further divisions

calgaryherald.com

I think there is a reason why we don't have lots of powerlines, pipelines and even railways.

Sheer distance.

I prefer distributed power plants, locally supplied and governed.

Its actually pretty crazy if you look at a rail map from the 50s to today how much rail has been lost. I feel like bringing the rail to Whitehouse back online would be very economical if you continued to Alaska.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I think all Carney did was buy himself some time and to kill as much separatist talk as he can before a spring election. It appears there is enough poison pills in that MOU to choke a horse. I doubt that any pipeline to tide water will be established for, at least, 10 years. Perhaps it's time for the kid gloves to come off and for the government to exercise Eminent Domain.

I said previously. Alberta will rejoice, and the Feds will snicker. This was a go away quote.

You’re right, a pro business guy who ran a multi billion corporation is totally against development in Canada.

You cant just abandon your values that fast.

Values: Building a Better World for All: Carney, Mark: 9780771051555: Books - Amazon.ca

Values: Building a Better World for All: Carney, Mark: 9780771051555: Books - Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Why not?
You could build a large tank farm for storage. Ship during the open water season and low rate stockpile during ice up.

Can you do the math on how big that the tank farm would have to be? Could you actually empty it during a shipping season that is shorter than the pumping season- keeping in mind during shipping season, the oil just keeps on arriving. Do the math and get back to me.

And, if the intent is to sell into the Asian market, how does Churchill help?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Meanwhile, more mills are closing every day...

B.C. parties at odds over forest industry response as closures mount - The Interior News

NDP, Conservative leaders differ on what ails and what might fix forestry in B.C.

interior-news.com

 

[MilEME09]

Meanwhile, more mills are closing every day...

B.C. parties at odds over forest industry response as closures mount - The Interior News

NDP, Conservative leaders differ on what ails and what might fix forestry in B.C.

interior-news.com

If only we had massive infrastructure programs that could use canadian timber....

 

[Kirkhill]

If only we had massive infrastructure programs that could use canadian timber....

A bit of back to the future.

If the universities and the governments want to continue making money by selling Canadian educations to foreigners then the solution is simple

The schools must supply on campus accommodation for all their students. And the foreign students must live on campus, pay their full freight, not work on the Canadian economy and leave when they complete their course.

 

[Czech_pivo]

A bit of back to the future.

If the universities and the governments want to continue making money by selling Canadian educations to foreigners then the solution is simple

The schools must supply on campus accommodation for all their students. And the foreign students must live on campus, pay their full freight, not work on the Canadian economy and leave when they complete their course.

Do you mean, 'not work at all when a student here in Canada.'

If so, I can buy into that.
But in addition, the universities need to provide accommodation for all 4 yrs as a student during their degree, to the point that they legislative that foreign students must live on campus for their entire 4 years, with no exceptions. Then this takes a huge amount of pressure of the non-campus housing market.

 

[Kirkhill]

Do you mean, 'not work at all when a student here in Canada.'

If so, I can buy into that.
But in addition, the universities need to provide accommodation for all 4 yrs as a student during their degree, to the point that they legislative that foreign students must live on campus for their entire 4 years, with no exceptions. Then this takes a huge amount of pressure of the non-campus housing market.

I figured that if the school wanted to employ its students within the confines of the school then that could be up to them.

As to leaving on completion of their degree what happens if they don't complete their degree? If they underperform or if they constantly change their major?

Course done. Pass or fail, you are going home.

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Concurrent thought. I saw an article proposing more 3 year programmes, as in Europe, with fewer electives, rather than the enriched 4 years honours programmes.

Currently with electives the students are at school for 8 semesters over a 12 semester period, summers off.

The article proposed limiting the standard programme to core subjects taught in 6 semesters over three years.

I would go one step further and eliminate the summer break, especially for foreign students, and process all students through 6 semesters of core subjects in 2 years.

The article's rationale is that both society and the kids benefit from getting them into the working world sooner while they are still energetic and questioning.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I figured that if the school wanted to employ its students within the confines of the school then that could be up to them.

As to leaving on completion of their degree what happens if they don't complete their degree? If they underperform or if they constantly change their major?

Course done. Pass or fail, you are going home.

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Concurrent thought. I saw an article proposing more 3 year programmes, as in Europe, with fewer electives, rather than the enriched 4 years honours programmes.

Currently with electives the students are at school for 8 semesters over a 12 semester period, summers off.

The article proposed limiting the standard programme to core subjects taught in 6 semesters over three years.

I would go one step further and eliminate the summer break, especially for foreign students, and process all students through 6 semesters of core subjects in 2 years.

The article's rationale is that both society and the kids benefit from getting them into the working world sooner while they are still energetic and questioning.

Only if the employment within the school is directly related to the field of study undertaken by the student. This would fall inline with what the US schools allow for their foreign students. They do NOT allow foreign students to work in the cafe, the bookstore, in an Admin role at the university as that directly takes employment away from American students. I completely and wholeheartedly agree with that approach. The also allow the foreign student to work much less hours a week and an American student, which I again wholeheartedly agree with.

 

[daftandbarmy]

If only we had massive infrastructure programs that could use canadian timber....

Sadly, our current lines of business for dimensional lumber are intimately connected with US housing starts, which are tanking.

It's not only about the tarriffs...

US housing starts tumbled 8.5% month-over-month in August 2025 to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.307 million units, down from a slightly revised 1.429 million in July and well below market forecasts of 1.37 million. That was the fourth-lowest reading since May 2020, underscoring persistent housing market weakness as a glut of unsold new homes and a softening labor market outweighed the relief from easing mortgage rates. By category, single-family starts—the largest segment of homebuilding—dropped 7.0% to 890,000 units, their weakest level since July 2024. Multi-family starts with five or more units plunged 11.0% to 403,000, a three-month low. ​

United States Housing Starts

Housing Starts in the United States decreased to 1307 Thousand units in August from 1429 Thousand units in July of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Housing Starts - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term...

tradingeconomics.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Sadly, our current lines of business for dimensional lumber are intimately connected with US housing starts, which are tanking.

It's not only about the tarriffs...

US housing starts tumbled 8.5% month-over-month in August 2025 to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.307 million units, down from a slightly revised 1.429 million in July and well below market forecasts of 1.37 million. That was the fourth-lowest reading since May 2020, underscoring persistent housing market weakness as a glut of unsold new homes and a softening labor market outweighed the relief from easing mortgage rates. By category, single-family starts—the largest segment of homebuilding—dropped 7.0% to 890,000 units, their weakest level since July 2024. Multi-family starts with five or more units plunged 11.0% to 403,000, a three-month low. ​

United States Housing Starts

Housing Starts in the United States decreased to 1307 Thousand units in August from 1429 Thousand units in July of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Housing Starts - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term...

tradingeconomics.com

Pace Herb Stein, if something can't go on forever it will stop.

If people have no jobs they have no money. If no money they can't buy houses. And the accountants' usual solution to reduced sales volume of raising prices doesn't seem to help.

And this is not just a Canuck or Yankee problem. It is universal across the OECD.

And this is what the youngsters trapped in their parents basements are doing instead.

Priced out of housing, younger Canadians turn to the stock market

Being rebuffed by the housing market could prove to be a blessing in disguise for those pushed into the arms of a red-hot stock market

www.theglobeandmail.com

They are not playing video games.