2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO
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I will make the observation that it was Trump saying the US was “in rough shape” and he was literally going to “Make America Great Again,” and people supporting him, that got them where they are. I empathize with those who believed him and he’s not stupid, he knew exactly how to manipulate them.
I am well past showing any support for anybody in Canada that wants to use the same tactics. We need to find a unifying leader, not self centred dividers.
I am well past showing any support for anybody in Canada that wants to use the same tactics. We need to find a unifying leader, not self centred dividers.
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I've brought this up before - would us working with the Danes on establishing JORN within Greenland, their reopening a number of closed former US cold war bases having JORN integrated into them and having all that data fed into North Bay help in any way?
Bullshit. The ability to emplace, employ, and protect certain small footprint sensors in Greenland is critical to controlling space and defeating the Russian threat. That is easily accommodated within the structure of the existing alliance. It has been so accommodated for decades. This does not require occupation and ‘ownership’ of the island.
America is unable to articulate a legitimate security concern that requires their possession of Greenland for the simple reason that there isn’t one.
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Imagine the poor Chinese supply tech trying to manage the supply chain in Greenland.
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No
Because there is no legitimate threat to Greenland.
If there is no legitimate threat to Greenland, why would addressing security help?
This is like Canada beefing up border security. The tariffs didn't go away.
I’m sure the video is endlessly entertaining and affirming or those who want their existing biases confirmed. YouTube garbage notwithstanding, there is no credible security threat requiring U.S. ownership or possession of Greenland. Even Trump’s administration itself has not tried to make any serious case. Everything actually needed is already being done or can be done within the existing alliance structure. Greenland’s sovereignty is not on offer.
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You are looking at this incorrect.
Is there a legitimate threat to Canada from Russia - yes or no?
If yes, then its the same threat level to Greenland.
If no, then is there a threat to the US from Russia in their going over Canadian airspace - if yes, then its the same threat level to Greenland.
We are buying JORN as part of our NORAD commitment in order to remove (as much as possible) concerns from the US that our landmass can be used in order to reach the US landmass. The same concern can be applied to Greenland. Its the same reason why we will have to be a part of the Golden Dome or whatever it will be called once Trump is gone.
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Tankers in the St Lawrence with moonpools.
Tourists on the ice with backpacks
More tourists tramping our forests and kayaking our shores.
And everything on silent watch until it is remotely activated.
The threat isn't Motor Rifle Brigades in the north or anywhere else. It is the possibility of the place being littered with stuff like this.
And the cure is constant vigilance, monitoring foreign nationals and having sufficient manpower to conduct regular sweeps.
I may be pessimistic but I am far from unhappy.
I have been arguing for years that we, collectively, have not been taking risks to the arctic seriously enough only to be told there is nothing to worry about. Apparently there is. Even if it is only someone who worries about the same things I do.
Canada has been promising the US a Mobile Striking Force since 1945, earlier if the Special Service Force of 1942 is recognized as a North American defence force initially deployed in the Aleutians. We signed up for AMF(L) in 1960 along with the Euros and Brits. In 1968 we agreed to the CAST Brigade Group.
And all of those efforts were under-funded, back-burnered and ignored.
It is not that the need hasn't been recognized. It is just that we never believed it and preferred to spend our money in Germany.
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LOL, decided to stop the process flow after the first decision point.
How much did Canada really address the issue though?
We said we were going.to add 1000 CBSA officers to the border, and hire 1000 more RCMP officers so the RCMP had the manpower available to focus more on border security.
And we leased 2 used Black Hawk helicopters for RCMP ERT's to whip around in, kind of like a 'border QRF' of sorts.
Did we hire those 1000 additional CBSA officers tho?
Did we hire those 1000 additional RCMP officers tho?
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Seeing how the RCMP was already struggling to recruit enough people to compensate for retirements, I don't see them hiring 1000 new officers overnight...
I believe the RCMP is still several thousand people short of the goal, to the point it is still having a real affect on day to day operations in some parts.
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And let's be clear here, since our mainstream media can't be bothered to tell Canadians the whole situation...
Canada levied tariffs against American products, and has for a while now. Some of those products were supposed to be covered by CUSMA
America levied tariffs on Canadian products that were not covered under CUSMA because we had brought in tariffs for things that were covered under CUSMA.
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People say "Canada still doesn't have a deal with the US..."
Untrue.
CUSMA is our deal with America, and it is a more favourable deal than what most other countries have.
Will that agreement survive it's upcoming renegotiation in 2026? Who knows
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Everything after was was based on a something that is demonstratedly false.
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Interesting. I didn't know that you had access to the list of Russian targets for their ICBM's and that none of them are Canadian.
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There are no fleets of Chinese and Russian ships around Greenland looking to take it over.Weather Station Kurt - Wikipedia
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Tankers in the St Lawrence with moonpools.
Tourists on the ice with backpacks
More tourists tramping our forests and kayaking our shores.
And everything on silent watch until it is remotely activated.
The threat isn't Motor Rifle Brigades in the north or anywhere else. It is the possibility of the place being littered with stuff like this.
And the cure is constant vigilance, monitoring foreign nationals and having sufficient manpower to conduct regular sweeps.
I may be pessimistic but I am far from unhappy.
I have been arguing for years that we, collectively, have not been taking risks to the arctic seriously enough only to be told there is nothing to worry about. Apparently there is. Even if it is only someone who worries about the same things I do.
What's next, if trump complains about a vampire coven in Halifax do we need to stand up a unit of vampire hunters?
The problem is we live in reality and Trump lives in his own fantasy land.
Is there not another thread to talk about the shortcomings of the CAF and Canadian governments since 1945?
