Sexual Assault & Sexual Misconduct in the CF
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I have so many questions
-Is this going to be recorded as feedback notes?
-How much of a difference between seniority or position brings in the onus to report? If you have two members of the same rank in different units, but one unit is higher in the Order of Presidence?
-Are CO's going to get upset when they don't get wedding invites, considering how they may have had a required interest in the relationship from the beginning?
-Are Officer Cadets people?
-Is this going to be recorded as feedback notes?
-How much of a difference between seniority or position brings in the onus to report? If you have two members of the same rank in different units, but one unit is higher in the Order of Presidence?
-Are CO's going to get upset when they don't get wedding invites, considering how they may have had a required interest in the relationship from the beginning?
-Are Officer Cadets people?
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Back in the day, single members needed a CO's permission to get married.
McG
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No.
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As an outsider looking in, part of this confuses me. Since they use the conjunction 'or', any one adjective applies.
"that involve people of different:
The root of the issue goes back to the hiring of both genders. As mentioned, 'people be people'.
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"that involve people of different:
- rank, (makes sense)
- seniority (perhaps, particularly if it is extreme; very senior vs very junior)
- position (does this imply you can only be involved with somebody in the same trade or position spec?)
- experience (how is anyone expected to interpret that?)
The root of the issue goes back to the hiring of both genders. As mentioned, 'people be people'.
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When I was serving with the Brits, I had to sign off on any loan that my troops applied for...and for officers, wives were mentioned in the PER.....
daftandbarmy
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QV
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What does that look like to you in this situatio?
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How about when they loaned out their wives?
Haggis
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FTFY. It's 2026, after all.
daftandbarmy
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We returned to barracks from a long FTX a couple of days early once, with no warning.
The Brigade Commander made it clear to the CO that he would never do that again.
The casualty count in the married patch was of historical proportions.
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Ahh the France not allowing genetic test method… is it better to remain in the matrix than the reality?We returned to barracks from a long FTX a couple of days early once, with no warning.
The Brigade Commander made it clear to the CO that he would never do that again.
The casualty count in the married patch was of historical proportions.
Asking about positions and experience seems a bit intrusive.
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I re-read the updated DAOD 5019-1.
www.canada.ca
The DAOD is not worded exactly the same way as the CBC article.
DAOD 5019-1, Personal Relationships - Canada.ca
Defence Administrative Orders and Directives - DAOD 5019-1 - Personal Relationships and Fraternization
The DAOD is not worded exactly the same way as the CBC article.
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The thing that stood out to me is that idea that if it is discovered that you had a relationship with someone in the past that was not declared, you're assumed to be guilty of adversely hurting someone's career. So if 10 years ago you dated someone that was a lower rank, you are now assumed to be a pervert that abused authority, and are subject to investigation with the presumption you are guilty.I re-read the updated DAOD 5019-1.
DAOD 5019-1, Personal Relationships - Canada.ca
Defence Administrative Orders and Directives - DAOD 5019-1 - Personal Relationships and Fraternization
The DAOD is not worded exactly the same way as the CBC article.
It's a bizarre minefield to set for the organization... Unless the goal is to destabilize the organization.
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Where do you see in the DAOD that you have retroactively report your relationship history?
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