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Pipelines, energy and natural resources

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Meanwhile, looking in the other direction ....
Here's the map ....
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... with an Ontario info-machine backgrounder attached.

Let's see how it all goes -- FN reaction on need to consult/final say in 3, 2 .....
 

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Meanwhile, looking in the other direction ....
Here's the map ....
View attachment 101112\
... with an Ontario info-machine backgrounder attached.

Let's see how it all goes -- FN reaction on need to consult/final say in 3, 2 .....

I can appreciate the effort to stay well clear of the great lakes as much as possible. Can only hope that Quebec one day becomes open to a branch through the province to the east coast.
 
I agree. The Northern route is much more straight forward.
FTFY
Meanwhile, looking in the other direction ....
Here's the map ....
View attachment 101112\
... with an Ontario info-machine backgrounder attached.

Let's see how it all goes -- FN reaction on need to consult/final say in 3, 2 .....
Wow, if they could pull that off that would be wild.
 
Two branch lines possible from that mainline

Cochrane-Moosonee


North Gower down the 416 to Johnstown.


North Gower, like much of the rest of the proposal, is on the Trans Canada Natural Gas Mainline.

Tankers down the St Lawrence, past the Montreal refineries to Saint John for bulking, refining and distribution.

Tankers from Moosonee to Ascension for bulking and distribution.
 
Two branch lines possible from that mainline

Cochrane-Moosonee


North Gower down the 416 to Johnstown.


North Gower, like much of the rest of the proposal, is on the Trans Canada Natural Gas Mainline.

Tankers down the St Lawrence, past the Montreal refineries to Saint John for bulking, refining and distribution.

Tankers from Moosonee to Ascension for bulking and distribution.
the link for Johnstown makes a good add for Paul Martin. Is that your liberal bias showing again:ROFLMAO:
 
It is obvious to me that the proposed routing following the TC Energy ('Trans-Canada') pipeline. It is well known terrain and much flatter and more forgiving. Trying to hug Lake Superior and/of Huron would be exponentially more costly.

I think this is an excellent project, both from a sovereignty and energy security perspective, by avoiding the Line 5 route through the US which has been tied up in litigation for quite a while now.

It could also potentially qualify as a federal 'nation-building' project.

Two branch lines possible from that mainline

Cochrane-Moosonee


North Gower down the 416 to Johnstown.


North Gower, like much of the rest of the proposal, is on the Trans Canada Natural Gas Mainline.

Tankers down the St Lawrence, past the Montreal refineries to Saint John for bulking, refining and distribution.

Tankers from Moosonee to Ascension for bulking and distribution.
I won't get into the argument of trying to ship through the mudflats and sandbars of James Bay/lower Moose River. Shipping from Jonestown would require somebody to build a fleet of SeawayMax tankers, would still expose us to US 'interference', and would be met with no less opposition from Quebec.
 
Meanwhile, looking in the other direction ....
Here's the map ....
View attachment 101112\
... with an Ontario info-machine backgrounder attached.

Let's see how it all goes -- FN reaction on need to consult/final say in 3, 2 .....
Dont get excited yet. Apparently they didnt do any consultation work in this yet and did not come to any sort of agreement with MB for that reason. Manitoba will hold the keys on this one pending consultation. Might be a way to get some NG pipe built to Churchill.
 
Dont get excited yet. Apparently they didnt do any consultation work in this yet and did not come to any sort of agreement with MB for that reason. Manitoba will hold the keys on this one pending consultation. Might be a way to get some NG pipe built to Churchill.
My initial thought of the proposal was "what a great time to build an inland tank farm in Manitoba and create a separate pipeline north to Churchill"

Oil moving east/west. Spur to allow seasonal loading at Churchill can be a separate project and partial indigenous owned per Manitoba desires.

Option for a second spur to Thunder Bay and 2nd tank farm if needed...but optional.

Regardless this I think this is truly important from a sovereignty perspective and is in many ways critical to future of the country....a fully Canadian E/W oil pipeline.
 
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