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With the resources available to the US intelligence and military and the Israeli military and intelligence kicking in what they know, I'm pretty confident Trump knows more about the situation than anyone here.
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Lack (or at least apparent lack) of Iranian WMD efforts in the 2003 to 2008 frame may have been influenced by what was going on next door and how keen the US administration of the day was to choose "military intervention" from its list of options. I have no notion that any far-reaching conclusions about Iran's long-term goal can be drawn.
A long count of years has passed since then.
A long count of years has passed since then.
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Well the Guardian is reporting that Saudi Arabia may be positioning ground forces for an attack into Yemen.
www.theguardian.com
This should be interesting.
Saudi Arabia prepares sea and possible land offensive against Houthis
Yemeni sources say Saudis concentrating forces for what could be attack in central Yemen
www.theguardian.com
This should be interesting.
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I got 20 bucks on the Yemanis ,anyone?Well the Guardian is reporting that Saudi Arabia may be positioning ground forces for an attack into Yemen.
Saudi Arabia prepares sea and possible land offensive against Houthis
Yemeni sources say Saudis concentrating forces for what could be attack in central Yemen
This should be interesting.
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Considering how badly the Saudis did last time....sigh...
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I tend to doubt that, mainly as due to the systemic purging of our intelligence and military. It has been reported again and again that a lot of actual intelligence is gutted before it arrives to be viewed by POTUS or the SecDef (until Department of War gets accreditation by Congress it is still DoD).
I would also suspect that in cases where a range of assessments of varying probability exist, it’s probably in the best interest of officials to present the official assessment most in line with what they expect the administration want to hear. Pulling, perhaps, from closer to the edge of the bell curves rather than the middle.
daftandbarmy
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Well the Guardian is reporting that Saudi Arabia may be positioning ground forces for an attack into Yemen.
Saudi Arabia prepares sea and possible land offensive against Houthis
Yemeni sources say Saudis concentrating forces for what could be attack in central Yemen
This should be interesting.
Hopefully they'll put flowers down the barrels of the guns on those 'Heavy Assault Vehicles' they got from Canada
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So you're saying this forum has better intelligence than the US?
Reported by who? Verified sources, democrats or the Washington Post? I'm not going to speculate on rumours, second hand info or WAGs on who or what is stripped from the files before it goes into a SCIF.
We have zero idea on what has been briefed. I'm not saying that we can't speculate or war game it based on what we've read or heard, but to say the POTUS doesn’t have a clue of the situation is a ridiculous assertion.
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That isn’t at all what I said.
Several outstanding GOFO’s have quit from it.
I do not think he has a clue at all in how to deal with this. His whole transactional relationships fail when you run into either a Putin, or the current Iranian government.
Not everyone can be bought off with something he has.
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Considering the Department of War has sent out a request to military personell for ideas on how to bring the Iranians to heel one could be justified in feeling Trump et al are looking to be pretty incompetent on this whole thing.
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The fact that a bunch of E-4s on a weekend bender drinking Everclear might actually come *up with a more workable plan that the current administration leadership is saddening, but at this point not surprising.
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I would buy someone a case of beer to be able to read the ideas that come in, because some are gonna be friggin’ spectacular.
Somebody in the US IC may know more, whether or not trump himself knows is a different matter.
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Good information doesn't guarantee good judgement. He has the best information in the world, but...
It would be really helpful for everyone if the White House provided falsifiable clarity on the Iran nuclear program issue. If that means declassifying estimates, then that is what they should do. Even their allies (CANZUK etc..) are being kept in the dark (an assumption based on our political reaction) and its causing a massive rift in NATO when we need each other the most.
It would be really helpful for everyone if the White House provided falsifiable clarity on the Iran nuclear program issue. If that means declassifying estimates, then that is what they should do. Even their allies (CANZUK etc..) are being kept in the dark (an assumption based on our political reaction) and its causing a massive rift in NATO when we need each other the most.
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The version of this I've seen is a CENTCOM int person canvassing "military analysts" asking for "new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran" ...
CENTCOM reportedly asked military analysts for strategies to punish Iran | The Jerusalem Post
Military officials described the crowdsourcing-style email as unusual, while a second source said CENTCOM was reviewing its approach and considering a wide range of alternatives.
www.jpost.com
Trump’s despair over Iran revealed in crowd-source memo seeking ideas for war: report
U.S. military officials say effort to crowdsource a solution to the war via email blast is highly unusual
www.independent.co.uk
US official asks for creative ways to punish Iran in 'unusual' request
A CENTCOM official sent an email to colleagues looking for new and creative ideas for how to pressure Iran into capitulating to U.S. demands.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
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Exactly. Whether he does anything with the info he's got or not is immaterial. My point being you can say he hasn’t a fucking clue, when he has some of the best intelligence in the world. I said nothing about how he would use it.
Kev,
Sorry. I must've read you wrong.
I don’t consider resigning GOFO's as an unbiased source. We see much the same walk aways everytime the administration changes. And names, their names put the weight behind their decisions and opinions. Just tossing criticism out about Trump, without identification, equates to media saying 'sources who cannot be named have reported......'
As I said above, I never said he had a viable plan or knew what to do. I said the idea of him 'not having a clue' was ridiculous. He has the best info available, I never said he knew what to do with it
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Got a source for that?
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Pentagon asks soldiers for ‘creative’ ideas to punish Iran
The US has appealed to its soldiers for ideas on how to proceed with its war in Iran.
It's being widely reported.
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Only bullies ask for ways to "punish" their opponent. Thoughtful people ask for ways to achieve their objective against their opponent (after, of course, having defined what that objective is).
