2009 Shooting rampage at Fort Hood/Hasan Execution

[Nvlgzr]

Well if you want, you can watch it yourself because its going to be shown live:

Pentagon says the firing squad execution of Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan will be livestreamed

That’s just sick. Whiskey Pete is now making snuf films?

 

[Gordon Dundas/]

That’s just sick. Whiskey Pete is now making snuf films?

Pretty much , why do I get the feeling one of Donnie's kids have rights to the t shirts and othe souvenirs.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Meh livestreaming it isn’t that big a deal.

I can watch tons of videos of police killing people (some justified, some not), isis beheadings, or just random deaths, easily. Adding public executions which specifically have witnesses most of the time to ensure the state acted fairly, to the mix isn’t that big a deal.

The modern era is screamish about state executions, historically people used to watch them as a spectacle. Christopher Lee famously watched the last public one France had.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Moved the execution discussion here to keep the material in the already-existing thread on the incident.

Army.ca Staff

 

[brihard]

Does he deserve execution? Absolutely. But live-streaming it is wildly stupid. This isn’t going to deter anyone who commits this sort of offence. He’s not going to appear on TV as some big Jihadi monster; he’s a wheelchair-bound paraplegic, a pretty pathetic figure at this point. It’s just going to create more of a martyr effect.

Execute him out of sight and out of mind and dispose of his remains innocuously.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Does he deserve execution? Absolutely. But live-streaming it is wildly stupid. This isn’t going to deter anyone who commits this sort of offence. He’s not going to appear on TV as some big Jihadi monster; he’s a wheelchair-bound paraplegic, a pretty pathetic figure at this point. It’s just going to create more of a martyr effect.

Execute him out of sight and out of mind and dispose of his remains innocuously.

Wait for it... the half time show at the Superbowl will probably start looking like this now:

 

[PPCLI Guy]

this is an appalling idea, as suggested here:

Sean MacFarland
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Lieutenant General, US Army, Retired; Board Member, Consultant, Speaker
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-macfarland-45a15721/
This is a terrible idea. I have no problem with executing this man. In fact, when I was CG of Fort Hood, it was my responsibility to approve his death sentence. I also had the solemn duty of presenting Purple Heart medals to those he wounded and to the next of kin of those he killed. But it is fair to ask whether carrying out the sentence at Fort Hood and live streaming it is justice, vengeance, or a mere spectacle for the masses. It also surrenders a piece of the moral high ground we have held up to now in our campaigns against Al Qaeda and ISIS by adopting their barbaric practice of video recording the executions of their prisoners. Once it is aired, it is bound to make it harder for our service members to be seen as “the good guys” in foreign lands. How many insurgents were inspired to attack our troops by photos from Abu Ghraib prison? Worst of all, it will make Nidal Hassan an international martyr. Shooting a hole in the chest of a wheelchair bound paraplegic on live tv will not be a good look for America, no matter who we are shooting. By all means, deliver justice to this man. But do it humanely, with dispassionate professionalism, in seclusion at the US Disciplinary Barracks. This will deliver the necessary punitive and deterrent effects while upholding our reputation as a civilized nation to be admired and emulated. It will also deprive our enemies of a propaganda weapon to use against us. #forthood, #nidalhassan, #militaryjustice, #hegseth

I served with this man in Iraq for almost 8 months. I trust his judgement, and know his character. I also agree with him wholeheartedly.

 

[mariomike]

He asked for the death penalty at his trial because he wanted to be a Martyr.

Giving a paraplegic a television audience will give him international publicity and likely fulfill his heart's desire.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Still up in the air re: livestreaming?

Trump says 'they're making a determination' on livestream of Hasan execution

While Trump said he supports the execution of Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan, it's not clear whether he agrees with Hegseth's plan to make livestream it.

abcnews.com

AP: "Vance expresses doubts about Pentagon plan to livestream Fort Hood shooter’s execution"

 

[ModlrMike]

"We're going to televise shooting a paraplegic in a wheelchair."
"We are going to give our adversaries exactly what they want."
"They will use this to rile up their base, and increase radicalization."
"This will make Americans less safe."

"Maybe we shouldn't do this."

Where is the adult in the room?

 

[brihard]

"We're going to televise shooting a paraplegic in a wheelchair."
"We are going to give our adversaries exactly what they want."
"They will use this to rile up their base, and increase radicalization."
"This will make Americans less safe."

"Maybe we shouldn't do this."

Where is the adult in the room?

It may actually be Vance.

Vance suggests Nidal Hasan’s execution won’t be livestreamed, contradicting Hegseth

The defense secretary had said on Thursday that the convicted Fort Hood shooter’s execution by firing squad would be livestreamed for the public.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[North Star]

Kind of pedantic point, but shouldn't he be hanged? I thought death by firing squad was supposed to be a soldier's death for a crime, while hanging was for common criminals. This guy stopped being a soldier when he adopted the enemy's ideology. That said, this attitude may be an old Commonwealth one rather than American.

 

[Gordon Dundas/]

Kind of pedantic point, but shouldn't he be hanged? I thought death by firing squad was supposed to be a soldier's death for a crime, while hanging was for common criminals. This guy stopped being a soldier when he adopted the enemy's ideology. That said, this attitude may be an old Commonwealth one rather than American.

How does one go about hanging some in a wheelchair it's an odd exercise in logistics and physics I suspect.
Insert obvious Mel Brooks movie reference here .

 

[markppcli]

Kind of pedantic point, but shouldn't he be hanged? I thought death by firing squad was supposed to be a soldier's death for a crime, while hanging was for common criminals. This guy stopped being a soldier when he adopted the enemy's ideology. That said, this attitude may be an old Commonwealth one rather than American.

Plenty of spies, traitors, mutineers, and deserters have been executed by firing squad.

 

[Haggis]

So, if this insane scheme goes ahead, the precedent will have been set for any future death row inmate to request their prime time frying time as their last wish. The law of unintended consequences.

 

[The Bread Guy]

So, if this insane scheme goes ahead, the precedent will have been set for any future death row inmate to request their prime time frying time as their last wish. The law of unintended consequences.

Interesting point, given that Hasan apparently asked to become a martyr.

 

[mariomike]

Hegseth said the livestream would act as a deterrent.

I hope he is right . That it does not have the opposite effect.

Thinking of the Canonization of Joan of Arc

 

[Maxman1]

How does one go about hanging some in a wheelchair it's an odd exercise in logistics and physics I suspect.
Insert obvious Mel Brooks movie reference here .

Really big trap door to fit the wheelchair?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Kind of pedantic point, but shouldn't he be hanged? I thought death by firing squad was supposed to be a soldier's death for a crime, while hanging was for common criminals. This guy stopped being a soldier when he adopted the enemy's ideology. That said, this attitude may be an old Commonwealth one rather than American.

Notwithstanding the mechanics of hanging someone in a wheelchair mentioned earlier, according to the latest pam I could find (attached), DS solution/default for military executions before this was lethal injection, not hanging. As always, happy to be corrected if this isn't still the case.

 

[mariomike]

, according to the latest pam I could find (attached), DS solution/default for military executions before this was lethal injection, not hanging.

That's what it says,

Military executions will be by lethal injection.

No mention yet of his Last Meal request.

A guy in Georgia last month,

For his last meal, prison officials said Humphreys requested barbecue beef brisket, pork ribs, a bacon double cheeseburger with fries, buffalo wings, a meat lovers pan pizza and two caffeine-free sodas. For dessert, he chose butter pecan ice cream and peach ice cream.