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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 12:27:17 »
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DSSPM2 is introducing the Fur Hat, Yukon Style, Unisex, NSN 8405-20-006-0892 (A/A) to be worn with numbers 1, 2 and 3 orders of dress.

Unless they change the orders of dress, I won't be keeping my head warmer this winter, I'll still be using the lovely holey toque.  :'(
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2011, 12:35:54 »
Which will also be interpreted by some that "Earflaps must be down when it is -17C or colder"

Beware the WO with a thermometer built into his pace stick.
How quaint.  No.  Instead each day, a member of the Duty Watch will be marched out to stick his/her tongue on the flagpole. If it sticks:  earflaps down.  If not:  earflaps up.  Seems simple enough...
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 13:09:02 »
How quaint.  No.  Instead each day, a member of the Duty Watch will be marched out to stick his/her tongue on the flagpole. If it sticks:  earflaps down.  If not:  earflaps up.  Seems simple enough...

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2011, 13:09:46 »
...a member of the Duty Watch will be marched out to stick his/her tongue on the flagpole. If it sticks:  earflaps down.  If not:  earflaps up.  Seems simple enough...

Define "sticks"......
The amount of force necessary to pull the tongue off of the pole has to be measured, and some sort of baseline created to determine if the tongue was really "stuck" or not.
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2011, 13:31:03 »
Obviously, being in a modern Army, this will require an unnecessarily complicated high-tech solution. Once all hats have been issued, a recall through unit QMs will be arranged for modifications. Each hat will have a strip of a to-be-developed bi-metal memory alloy installed that will automatically lower the earflaps at -17C. This will remove that pesky chain of command influence on deciding when flaps can or should be lowered, and at the same time ensure uniformity across the CF. Hats will have to be turned in by 10 November, and will be returned on 1 April.

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2011, 13:34:13 »
Obviously, being in a modern Army, this will require an unnecessarily complicated high-tech solution. Once all hats have been issued, a recall through unit QMs will be arranged for modifications. Each hat will have a strip of a to-be-developed bi-metal memory alloy installed that will automatically lower the earflaps at -17C. This will remove that pesky chain of command influence on deciding when flaps can or should be lowered, and at the same time ensure uniformity across the CF. Hats will have to be turned in by 10 November, and will be returned on 1 April.

But what about the leap years?

We need a pan-CF working group to assess this and determine options for analysis and selection.
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2011, 13:41:17 »
But what about the leap years?

We need a pan-CF working group to assess this and determine options for analysis and selection.

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2011, 13:43:11 »
And contractors.  Musn't forget the contractors.

Preferably from CGI's new Defence division.

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2011, 14:04:23 »
Wait until PETA hears about the experiments to breed light blue muskrats for correctly coloured Air Force hats without the use of environmentally hazardous dyes. The costs will make the F-35 program seem cheap in comparison.     >:D

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2011, 14:05:28 »
Logistik Unicorp site states:
Unless they change the orders of dress, I won't be keeping my head warmer this winter, I'll still be using the lovely holey toque.  :'(

Bummer.  This would have come in handy during my little excursion to Yellowknife in Feb.  Eh, I'll pack it anyway.  Who knows. Things may change.   ;D
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2011, 14:23:03 »
Will it have some form of detachable or roll-up combat mullet like the helmet or wide brim field cap?
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2011, 15:21:59 »
Define "sticks"......
The amount of force necessary to pull the tongue off of the pole has to be measured, and some sort of baseline created to determine if the tongue was really "stuck" or not.

I'm sure we will have to strike a working group to study it, with input from all stakeholders.  There will have to be trials of course and a budget...
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2011, 15:24:33 »
Obviously, being in a modern Army, this will require an unnecessarily complicated high-tech solution. Once all hats have been issued, a recall through unit QMs will be arranged for modifications. Each hat will have a strip of a to-be-developed bi-metal memory alloy installed that will automatically lower the earflaps at -17C. This will remove that pesky chain of command influence on deciding when flaps can or should be lowered, and at the same time ensure uniformity across the CF. Hats will have to be turned in by 10 November, and will be returned on 1 April.

Now you're just being silly.  We'll need to recall the hats for way longer than five months.  We'll also have to prioritize returns to ensure that the folks in Victoria get theirs back first.
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2011, 15:32:39 »
Will it have some form of detachable or roll-up combat mullet like the helmet or wide brim field cap?

This will of course require yet another study and sub working group at NDHQ to determine if it will or not. Should we go with yes I'll create another thread here on proper proceedure for when and how high the mullet, combat individual should be rolled up.  :brickwall:
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2011, 15:36:27 »
I guess I must be totally daft.

After wearing the damn things for more than fifty years, in both military and civilian versions, in urban, field ,mountain and all Canadian oceans environments, including the Arctic in winter, I completely failed to notice that toques failed to "meet the requirements of the Canadian climate".

Silly  me.

By the way, PETA should investigate those toques also: Th shearing of those poor sheep to provide the wool is just so unethical.
 
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2011, 16:07:54 »
I guess I must be totally daft.

After wearing the damn things for more than fifty years, in both military and civilian versions, in urban, field ,mountain and all Canadian oceans environments, including the Arctic in winter, I completely failed to notice that toques failed to "meet the requirements of the Canadian climate".

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2011, 16:41:35 »
Bummer.  This would have come in handy during my little excursion to Yellowknife in Feb.  Eh, I'll pack it anyway.  Who knows. Things may change.   ;D

It will be dark for a good portion of the day.  I say wear it anyway, no one will see it!  :nod:
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2011, 00:33:38 »
I guess I must be totally daft.

After wearing the damn things for more than fifty years, in both military and civilian versions, in urban, field ,mountain and all Canadian oceans environments, including the Arctic in winter, I completely failed to notice that toques failed to "meet the requirements of the Canadian climate".

Silly  me.

By the way, PETA should investigate those toques also: Th shearing of those poor sheep to provide the wool is just so unethical.
 
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Don't forget that we use virgin wool as well!

On a more serious note, I have always supported the toque as an appropriate piece of operational headgear, but I have always maintained it has no place on any kind of dress uniform.  In other words, it's fine on the bridge of a ship at sea, but when walking in downtown Ottawa in service dress, the Yukon hat is the obvious winner.  I also like soft cuddly furry things.
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2011, 12:44:56 »
Oh PETA, ever since the sea kitten thing, I have not taken you seriously.
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2011, 13:42:58 »
Don't forget that we use virgin wool as well!

On a more serious note, I have always supported the toque as an appropriate piece of operational headgear, but I have always maintained it has no place on any kind of dress uniform.  In other words, it's fine on the bridge of a ship at sea, but when walking in downtown Ottawa in service dress, the Yukon hat is the obvious winner.  I also like soft cuddly furry things.

Who doesn't like soft cuddly furry things :nod:
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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2011, 14:11:46 »
Who doesn't like soft cuddly furry things :nod:

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2011, 14:16:48 »
Who doesn't like soft cuddly furry things :nod:

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2011, 14:19:46 »
Anyone receive their "soft cuddly furry things " yet for those who ordered..?

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2011, 14:20:36 »
We were told to expect it in November.

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Re: "Yukon" Fur Caps Coming....
« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2011, 17:27:18 »
I've ordered mine.  Can't wait to wear it, if nothing else to p*** off PETA et al.  Have you ever noticed that there are not of beaver, muskrat or other furry critter lining up to have there fur shaved off so there can wear these oh so superior synthetics, polarfleece etc.  I haven't seen a whole lots of the bears or moose in Gagetown bounding around the Training area wear North Face lightweight thinsolate coats either.  Overly sarcastic I know but fur still rules for warmth.

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