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Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« on: October 27, 2011, 16:53:25 »
Apparently there has been some discussion about some type of corps issued work dress uniform for army cadets that is currently being implemented or will be shortly. From what I understand it will be similar to the old style OD combat uniform, with some minor differences. Anyone know if there is any legitimacy to this or not?

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 16:57:30 »
This what you are talking about ?


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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 17:02:18 »
There are combats that have been issued to the CSTC's to replace the old OG107 uniforms. These new uniforms are olive drab with the rank slide in the front and the buttons exposed. Similar to the first version of CADPAT. They have the cadets Canada logo on the left pocket of both the shirt and the pants. It's not clear if these uniforms will be issued to individual corps or not. If a work dress is issued, it would be a good bet that these uniforms will be it.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2011, 17:10:43 by Boysen »
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 17:15:53 »
Why is that Cadet in the Cadetpat wearing a CANADA slip-on and crossed swords on his name tape?

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 17:27:34 »
Why is that Cadet in the Cadetpat wearing a CANADA slip-on and crossed swords on his name tape?

His?  Pretty sure that's a female.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 17:29:50 »
His?  Pretty sure that's a female.

Really?

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 17:32:40 »
Why is that Cadet in the Cadetpat wearing a CANADA slip-on and crossed swords on his name tape?
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 18:22:24 »
Why is that Cadet in the Cadetpat wearing a CANADA slip-on and crossed swords on his name tape?
  Because that's what the cadet camp issued her? She's on staff as a CSM. Cadets hold most of the NCO positions with a smattering of Reg/Res NCOs and CIC Officers.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 21:12:07 »
Are we talking about the large surplus of combats that CSTC Acadia just got rid of because of the end to the gunners trade?

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 09:53:34 »
I believe the post by Boysen is the version they were discussing, not the kiddy cadpat stuff in the other pic.

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2011, 09:58:50 »
not the kiddy cadpat stuff in the other pic.

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I've never been in Cadets, but personally, I think the other uniform looks better.  It's a distinct pattern which would separate the Cadets from the CF.  The other pic looks like someone dressed in old combats purchased at an Army surplus store.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2011, 11:14:22 »
I have to say that the OG uniform is a better choice in my opinion. The digicam version makes them look too much like serving soldiers. I also note that there's no identifying marks on the uniform that tells one they're cadets.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2011, 12:27:40 »
I have to say that the OG uniform is a better choice in my opinion. The digicam version makes them look too much like serving soldiers. I also note that there's no identifying marks on the uniform that tells one they're cadets.
I'd have to agree with you on this. Plus, after reading reviews of the kiddy cadpat as far as functionality goes, it's made of something similar to denim that doesn't dry very quickly, which makes it impractical for field use.

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2011, 12:49:48 »
I agree that there is no requirement for Cadets to have camoflauge pattern uniforms and the material should be quick drying, however we all have to face the reality that the OG uniforms are starting to run out of stock and are in varying states of repair. Something new, cost effective, and practical needs to make its way into the system that has staying power before these kids look like patchwork nightmares.

I wonder if anyone has come up with the idea of the Cadet movement adopting a work dress/field dress as their standard issue rather than the dress uniforms. Functionality for an organization should trump Buttons and Bows sometimes. Right?  :worms:
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2011, 13:12:36 »
I agree that there is no requirement for Cadets to have camoflauge pattern uniforms and the material should be quick drying, however we all have to face the reality that the OG uniforms are starting to run out of stock and are in varying states of repair. Something new, cost effective, and practical needs to make its way into the system that has staying power before these kids look like patchwork nightmares.

I wonder if anyone has come up with the idea of the Cadet movement adopting a work dress/field dress as their standard issue rather than the dress uniforms. Functionality for an organization should trump Buttons and Bows sometimes. Right?  :worms:

The picture I posted is the solution to the OG107 running out. These are brand new uniforms, not revamped old OG's. The quality seems comparable to CADPAT and is far quicker drying then the CADETPAT. It also has the added bonus of not making the cadets look like US Marines.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2011, 13:42:57 »
The picture I posted is the solution to the OG107 running out. These are brand new uniforms, not revamped old OG's. The quality seems comparable to CADPAT and is far quicker drying then the CADETPAT. It also has the added bonus of not making the cadets look like US Marines.

Really? Cause that certainly looks like revamped OGs to me... maybe its just a bad photo.  ::)
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 13:52:28 »
Really? Cause that certainly looks like revamped OGs to me... maybe its just a bad photo.  ::)

These uniforms have been used at Vernon for a couple summers now so they're not looking brand new anymore.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 14:03:31 »
These uniforms have been used at Vernon for a couple summers now so they're not looking brand new anymore.

Ah and there is the reality there.

What is the replenishment cycle looking like for these "new" uniforms? Has a contract been written for x amount of uniforms per year to replace the old ones? Is this all just a jerry-rigged solution (much like  CADETPAT) to a long standing issue until something more permanent comes along?
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 14:16:38 »
No idea on any timeline for the new uniforms. Just a lot of rumor and speculation. What I do know is that they have been issued at all the army cadet camps across Canada and they have the Cadets Canada logo embroidered on them. That leads me to think that these are more official then the CADETPAT.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 14:48:32 »
...and they have the Cadets Canada logo embroidered on them.
A logo that was never supposed to, when introduced, end up on any uniform items.

Yet here we are today with the Maple Leaf Swoosh on all three element's parkas, and now Army Cadet field kit. Bloody wonderful.

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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 14:51:35 »
A logo that was never supposed to, when introduced, end up on any uniform items.

Yet here we are today with the Maple Leaf Swoosh on all three element's parkas, and now Army Cadet field kit. Bloody wonderful.

If that's what it takes to get army cadets issued combats, I can live with it.  :P
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2011, 00:19:05 »
My solution, Have A Velcro patch on the sleeve where you would put the the RCACC logo on it and the corps identification, get rid of the crossed swords, and replace Canada with Cadet.(note. they have the CADETPAT slip on's which read "Cadet" why they were not issued with the kit is beyond me.)  I'm just shooting out ideas.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2011, 09:23:43 »
These uniforms have been used at Vernon for a couple summers now so they're not looking brand new anymore.
We had them at Blackdown in 2011 after the 4-5 washing they start to fade from greem to pink. must be a dye lot issue.
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Re: Speaking of combats for cadets.....
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2011, 17:49:30 »
I also note that there's no identifying marks on the uniform that tells one they're cadets.


Simple fix with the cadet rank slip-ons.